Cloth covered air hose

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Moorehead on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 06:26 pm:

I have just completed the restoration of a running board mounted tire air pump and need to get some hose to complete the project. Anyone know where I might find some air hose that might look period correct? The original one had an inline gauge. While not necessary, a gauge would be nice as well.
Thanks
Tom


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Matthew David Maiers on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 06:34 pm:

heres what i found with a quick google search, these guys might be able to help.

http://www.artcotools.com/suhner-fabric-air-hose.html


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Matthew David Maiers on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 06:36 pm:

heres what i found with a quick google search, these guys might be able to help.

http://www.artcotools.com/suhner-fabric-air-hose.html


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Matthew David Maiers on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 06:37 pm:

also the Germans use alot cloth covered hoses, i would think one of these would be able to withstand 50psi


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Matthew David Maiers on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 06:38 pm:

woops forgot the link

http://www.newcoproducts.com/flexi-hoses/german-hoses.htm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Moorehead on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 07:13 pm:

Thanks. Never thought about doing a Google search. DUH!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Brewer - NorCal on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 08:04 pm:

Don't know what size inside diameter you need, but when I rebuilt my hand pump, I used VW bug fuel line- fit, looks and works great. The inside diameter is about 4mm, I think, but it went on the 1/4" fitting just fine.
Pump
Close Up


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Peter Claverie on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 08:41 pm:

If it fits, VW Beetle fuel line might look just right.

I lost 2 Beetles because that line is used from the frame-mounted fuel line to the engine-mounted fuel pump. Both ends are pushed on to metal lines with fat places, and eventually the vibration it is there to absorb allows one end or the other to slip off. Raw fuel on a hot engine --- POOF!!

If you can find clamping rings like those shown in the pictures above, you'll be OK. If VW had used them, my wife would still be driving a Beetle.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Tomaso - Milton,WA on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 09:41 pm:

That hose looks great, Bob !


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Semprez-Templeton, CA on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 10:59 pm:

I still have a couple of running VW's I recognized the deficiency and added the missing hose clamps...but I'm just a dummy I guess.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 01:04 am:

Hose, I can find. I still need some good end connectors that look okay. I will check the link posted above.
Thanks.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 01:15 am:

On the Porsche 914, there was a recall to add clamps. It would have been ok with carbs, but these cars had 30+ psi EFI pumps.

A late neighbor invented the battery charger automatic circuitry used by Schauer with great success. In about 1975, he was called as an expert witness for them. They were being sued for one of their chargers that was hooked to a 914, allegedly starting a fire that burned up a mechanic garage and all its cars. He studied the pix from the fire dept investigator, and noted a clamp on the ground below the fuel hose. If the hose had been clamped onto the metal line, the clamp would still have been on the line after the fire.

Lawsuit was dropped and shop owner went to jail for arson.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith on Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 10:22 am:

I purchased some from Langs a while back. It looks old fashioned, but is not stiff enough.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Blancard on Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 11:41 am:

Tom - how about a photo of your air pump?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By A. J. "Art" Bell on Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 12:33 pm:

Lots of the old fabric covered hoses, especially for the barbed fitting
type used brass ferrules similar to oxy acetylene fittings. They need
to be swaged or crimped in a split die that could be easily home made.
Drill an appropriate size hole in some square steel stock, cut in half and
squeeze in a vise.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay - In Northern California on Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 02:36 pm:

Wayne, Are these the ends your speaking of ?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 05:21 pm:

Jay,
I have a few that are missing the little piece inside that presses the valve core down. I have about eight to ten tire pumps that I want to restore (? there is that word?), and not one of them has a connector that works. I am not picky enough to need Ford script pumps in my cars. However I want to get a proper vintage pump into each of my cars. And I have a couple special pumps (two and three stage) that I would like to have working just for themselves. (Have you ever tried to use a three stage hand pump?)
Yes, those are what I am looking for. I have looked around on-line, but my search skills are limited. A previous thread on the subject provided a few links which I checked, but also did not find those. It was just a few years ago that they were still readily available new. I am surprised I haven't been able to find a good source. (You best be careful, we don't want to start a run on the bank!)
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Moorehead on Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 07:06 pm:

air pump


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Moorehead on Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 07:11 pm:

Well, I got the picture to down load but not the message.
Handle folds down to make a nice unit sitting on the running board. Not bad for a $10 junk store find. Now I have to get the air hose and air chuck to see how it works.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aaron Griffey, Hayward Ca. on Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 02:17 pm:

I know Tom's picture is of an air pump for tires but that photo reminds me of the first car to have hydraulic brakes. Or one of the first.
It had a pump like that on the left running board and the driver would pump up pressure to a reserve tank that would be enough to stop the car several times with air over hydraulic.
The brake pedal opened a valve to allow pressure to get to the brakes.
Seems to have not lasted long.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aaron Griffey, Hayward Ca. on Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 02:25 pm:

For the tire pumps you'll need some German fuel injection hose. That should be good for a T tire as it is rated at 50 PSI. Most American and Japanese hose is neoprene covered.

Try 4mm or 6 mm. 8mm is 5/16". Gotta be German made for the cloth look.
Try a BMW, VW or Volvo dealers.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Allan Richard Bennett on Monday, January 14, 2013 - 03:05 am:

Tom, if you can't get the hose you want in the size you want with the cloth covering you want, perhaps you could just run with hose that fits and cover it with some cloth wiring harness/spaghetti. Y and Z's have it in various sizes, so you should be able to get something near.

Just a suggestion.

Allan from down under.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ROBERT J STEINER on Monday, January 14, 2013 - 08:25 am:

just go on Amazon.com they carry replacement Bicyle pump braided hoses
\Pyramid Bicycle Pump Replacement Hose For Model D Floor Pump


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