Can any one ID these parts as Model T or not?

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Thode Chehalis Washington on Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 06:35 pm:

I have a few parts that I don't know what they are or what they are for. Any ideas??

Front wood wheel hub, anyone know the brand?:




A Malleable metal bracket, Use??


A Springy thing:


Maybe a bumper bracket??


A steel bracket:


Thanks for any help,
Jim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Townsend ; ^ ) Gresham, Orygun on Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 06:38 pm:

Jim-
The second to the last one looks like bumper brackets.

The last one is a repair part for broken transmission pan ears.

: ^ )

Keith


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Tomaso - Milton,WA on Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 07:55 pm:

Third one from last is an "anti-shimmy" spring that fits between the rear of the front axle and the tie rod.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Noel D. Chicoine, MD, Pierre, SD on Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 09:21 pm:

I gave a set of those transmission pan ears to Speedy Bill to put in his museum this summer. I've carried them in my 23 for several years to help someone along the road but never needed them.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By James Gordon Nolan on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 11:46 am:

Hi Jim,
May I use your photo of of Transmission Pan Ears in out Club Magazine T Topics ( The Model T Ford Register Great Britain )as a member has just had a failure of this bracket in the UK.
Gordon Nolan T Topics Ed.
Email: gordon.nolan@btinternet.com


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay - In Northern California on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 12:14 pm:

Jim, the malleable iron bracket looks to be from an accessory that clamps to the front axle and tie rod to either tow a Model T or turn it into a hay wagon.


James , Here's a link to some pan ears I posted under ACCESSORY OF THE DAY a while back.

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/118802/139144.html

Here's another link to ears similar to the one pictured in this thread.

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/118802/139144.html

Feel free to use any of the photos for your magazine.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Thode Chehalis Washington on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 12:18 pm:

Thanks for the help in identifying some of these things. The pan support bracket was one step away from the scrap pile. It just looked too new.

Gordon,
You are welcome to use my photo. More photos and the patent can be found at:
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/118802/141644.html


I have not found any more details on the anti-shimmy spring but that is what I was thinking it was. It must have another part that attaches it to the axle.

I also agree about the bumper brackets but don't know the year - brand application.

Still don't have a clue about the bracket thingy with the grease cup.

Jim






Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Anthonie Boer on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 01:30 pm:

Hi ; Is there someone who have a picture with the measurements of the Pan support arms. This is to made some.
Thanks in advance
Toon


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace, North FL on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 06:06 pm:

Jim


Adv. on the Anti-Shimmy for the tie rod.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Thode Chehalis Washington on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 06:14 pm:

Toon,
This should be enough info to make the pan support bracket:











Jim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Thode Chehalis Washington on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 06:46 pm:

Thanks Dan,
That advertizement for that anti-shimmie device is very close to mine. Mine clamps to the axle and the "u" shaped wire ends ride on the tie rod.

Similar to this but reversed.


I don't have the other half of the axle clamp

Jim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Thode Chehalis Washington on Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 12:31 am:

Jay,
You were correct the malleable iron bracket is part of a tow bar/tongue

From this thread:
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/50893/73855.html?1229651966

There is this photo:


And from this thread:
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/179374/221303.html

There is this photo posted by you:


Thanks,
Jim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Anthonie Boer on Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 05:32 am:

Jim ; Thank you , that is what I need !
Toon


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay - In Northern California on Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 10:35 am:

Jim, Great work on the very comprehensive pan arm measurements!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Nigel Hugo on Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 11:24 am:

Pan support bracket, is this the only design? With this design the load is taken by the lip on the pan which isn't supported by the cylinder block at this point. Is there any design that goes underneath the pan and supports it from underneath?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay - In Northern California on Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 11:41 am:

Nigel, Here's 2 links to belly support units for the pan.

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/257047/260583.html

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/80257/116173.html


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 03:06 pm:

I would like to know what those front hubs are off of. (If they are fronts? I think they are.) What is very unusual is that very few cars using that type and size of hub and drum had brakes on the front. Hubs like that (assembled from the back side) were very common. Ford just happened to not do it that way.
Wood spokes and their hubs generally became larger and heavier by the late '20s, and very few cars before that happened had front wheel brakes.
Whatever those are off of could probably be used to adapt front wheel brakes for a T.
Maybe the hubs are fronts, but the drums are from the rears?
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


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