I'm very interested in tractors as well as Model T's. One of the interesting phenomenons I've seen is the number of tractors built from car parts. There were a lot of companies that sold tractor conversion kits or empty tractor chassis, which the buyer would provide the engine and trans out of a car to provide power. Plus there's the crazy little doodlebugs made out of nothing but spare parts and some imagination. Let's see what kind of tractors you guys have.
1950 Allis WD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXUItfFF3Rc&list=UUFVx528ORtpDgCPJXbFCA6w&index=4 4
1946 Allis B http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1S1lm6YnhE&list=UUFVx528ORtpDgCPJXbFCA6w&index=6 1
Binding wheat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46IdWrc3Yiw&list=UUFVx528ORtpDgCPJXbFCA6w&index=7 9
Here is a infamous Hoyt-Clagwell
Well, really a 52 Farmall Super C. The guy that designed this tractor must have grown up with Model T's. It has no water pump and has oil level petcocks just like a T. It does have a oil pump.
Mine is a stock standard 1925 McD. Was my grandads farm tractor and has been in my local area since new.
Prior to restoration and now. Still have the wheels to paint and roadbands to make but need to make space in the garage to do that!
Here is my dog Rusty with my Baird Beaver tractor which is also rusty!
Here is a Doodle Bug I saw on the side of the road while on a motorcycle ride in New Hampshire.
Hey Alex - Nice photo and a really nice tractor; and "before 'n after" photos are always neat!
One thing tho', and please don't take this wrong as I'm only trying to be helpful. Ya' gotta' be careful of abbreviations and "shortcuts" in writing like "1925 McD". I'm assuming that you're talking about McCormick-Deering, but we're mostly old Model T Ford guys that wouldn't know that, not so much "tractor guys". Besides that, a whole lotta' folks would think that "McD" might be a McDonalds hamburger drive-in! Ha,ha,.......harold
How about a Ford 8N ?
Powered by a Ford 8 cylinder
Jump seat for your honey ....
Video of it @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIJCqIHgfKc&list=UUoScFfW4dT_eQFKKskeBBTg&index=17
Hey Jim-want to drag? I can get 4MPH (Miles per hour) our of mine
Ps Harold yes its a 1925 McCormick Deering. It won't be flipping burgers any time soon though.
From POUND, Wisc. Sellers contact info is on the sign! troop
Here are some of the tractors that I have restored.
1927 Fordson F The Original "Hoyt Clagwell" in green acres was a Fordson.
1937 John Deere "AOS" The AOS stands for Model A Orchard Streamline. This one is the 248th of only 821 Built.
1939 John Deere "B" Row Crop
1934 Allis Chalmers "WC"
Waiting for Craig Anderson to post. He's an authority on very early tractors and has brought some real early ones back from next to nothing. Talk about a machinist there!!!
That is not the sport for me ....
Here is another, anyone wanna guess what it is ?
Jim - John Deere B Orchard
The real McCoy... troop
Here are my tractors a 8N and a 3000 diesel, only Fords as with anything I drive....
Only partly correct ....
That is ' Dean on a Deere '
But it is a B Orchard ....
The 1936 John Deere BO that Jim pictured (the shot was taken at Blackwell's Corners at Hwy 33 and Hwy 46 in California, James Deans last stop before dying) was an interesting tractor. It was originally shipped to San Francisco, CA without wheels. The dealer installed the Pacific Axle and Trailer Company solid cast steel wheels. The fronts with tires weighed 245 pounds and the rears with tires and no water were 525 pounds
Thanks Herb, For a while there I thought nobody was gonna show Model T tractors.
That Orchard came from a nice guy with a small
patch growing pistachio trees ? if I remember in Sonoma.
He had restored it, what was very rare about it was the original wheels and weights ? if I remember right were still on the tractor.
It was fully restored, what a hoot to see the Seller drive it on my trailer !
The photo op by the James Dean sign was too good to pass up.
The actual intersection where his accident occurred is now in a field.
Dean WAS NOT speeding at the time of the accident,
he was found not to contribute thru operator error.
A college student hit Dean.
But I digress ....
Here's my uncle's pulling tractor...
We have a bunch of Ford tractors in the family... I'd estimate around 100 total, all Fords except a couple Steigers.
Here's a link to the story about the Ford tractor collection on my Mom's side of the family, which also includes a mention of my parents' Model T, which was bought new by my great-grandfather.
I have a '47 Ford 2N that's been passed down 3 generations on my Dad's side. I'd like to restore it, but I don't want to take it apart since I use it around the yard quite a bit.
I think that was my tractor, I grow English walnuts in Paso Robles and you picked it up on the road in front of my place! The neat thing with the wheels is that there were no weights bolted on to the wheels, the wheels were the weights! The tractor was restored in my shop by a 16 year old girl from my Sunday school class for the Chevron tractor contest (with help from me and my neighbor hippie Don). She one 1st in the local contest.
Ha ha Dexter! I just discovered this thread.
Yeah we brought back a few wrecks........but this one was the worst.
Small world !
Hey, I am picking up a 31' or 32' Ford in the area Saturday.
I am in ....
(Let me check the hotel receipt)
Maybe I can swing by and say Hi this weekend
Great to see the old TD9. Looks like it could still earn itís keep.
When I was young and foolish (donít say it), I stripped all of the manuals
and service bulletins from 5 or 6 of these expanding covers and pitched them.
UD/s, WDís, TDís, (Hough) Payloaders, Payhaulerís, Payscrapers, Drott, you name it!
All I had left were the covers, some watch fobs and a sore back from pulling wrenches.
To soon old Ė To late smart !!!
My Dad and Uncle built this out of a Model A coupe and used the top for a dog house.
It had an AA truck rear end and they modified the steering so the seat was centered.
This tractor was used in a Birdseye food commercial back in the 70's after I restored it.
This Fordson was used in the NYS prison system at one time. I have two other Fordson's that need to be restored. Both are without fenders.
My 1952 8N. This tractor is like the energizer bunny. It has been a real workhorse, with only normal maintenance. At present time it needs another paint job.
Stocks, homemades, customs. This is more than I was expecting. I didn't know there were so many tractor guys on the forums.
Among the dozens and dozens (not sure exactly how many but that can't be too far off) we've got a Cultor sitting at home. Neat piece. Runs off a Model T engine and trans powering the front wheels. Steering articulates the middle of the tractor and the rear wheels just free spin. Wish I had a picture of it but it hasn't been out of the shed in I don't know how long.
Here's one that might make you guys smile. My brother and I are running a slow race with a pair of Oil Pulls. The idea is to be the last one across the finish line.
Got our picture on the front page of the local paper and the crowd got a kick out of seeing a couple young guys driving 80+ year old machines so well.
Another part of the hobby [illness]
Jared - Here is a 1917 Moline Universal Tractor (no relationship to Minneapolis Moline). This machine has some modern advancements seen on no other tractors at the time. It has electric starter/generator, distributor and electric light. It also has some very crude technology, notice the center of the right front wheel, it is poured concrete use for ballast to balance the weight of the engine that is offset to the left. I think it might be similar to the machine you are talking about. I was driving this tractor in a parade one time. At the end of the parade route there was a traffic cop directing traffic on a steep hill. I was in low gear just creeping along but was unable to stop on the steep hill. I thought the cop was going to swallow his whistle trying to get me to stop! I told him the brakes had gone out as I creeped slowly by him.
Speaking as the guy who got corrected for posting O.T. brass cars, let me just say that I think farm tractors are seriously cool!
Always wanted to play with one, but as a city kid, that just never happened for me. :*-(
(Okay, gang, I wanna hear lots and lots of pity, with plenty of violins and long "Awww's")
As Oliver Twist once said, "More, Sir? Please?"
Bob - Violins are way O/T in a tractor thread <@^@>
Here in South central Texas, tractor collecting and shows are a growing hobby.
On Jan 18-19 there is a good show coming to Hallettsville Texas. It is a tractor pull and antique tractor show in a very large indoor building.
If I did not have so darn many model T Fords, I have enough old tractors to swap hobbies.
When I was a boy my grandfather used a Caterpillar Two Ton on his orchard (descended from Holt, I think). I don't know the exact year of manufacture, but I do know that model was produced starting in about 1925 and was discontinued in about 1929.
I loved that tractor. Sure wish I had a picture of it....
Do you want one to restore? I know of one available here in the Paso Robles area.
I think this is a FORDSON copper print block
Mike, actually the Moline Universal is connected to MM. They joined the Minneapolis Threshing Machine Company to create Minneapolis Moline. Grandpa has one from 1919. The Universal design is actually one of my favorite designs. The Cultor is the same way. Glad to see there are so many other tractor guys on the forum.
My son bringing his TD9 Home... Hey Dad can I keep it!
A J "Art",
Violins may be OT for tractors, but what about "fiddles"? A bit of drift. There is a local entertainer here that has a really good part of his routine around that.
I really wish I knew if my grandfather's tractors were Ford 8N or 9N. He had three or four of them and they were all built between 1948 and 1954. I would really love to have one (this really is a sickness, isn't it?). I was driving them solo when I was six years old. But then, I was a strange and unusually responsible kid. My grandfather also had an old McCormick that I drove some (it may have been late '30s). My dad wouldn't let me drive it a lot because he said it had a bad habit of flipping over if you used the brakes incorrectly. I don't know how true that was, but I do know that hired ranch hands did manage to flip it over a couple times. I remember my dad and grandpa rebuilding it.
He also had some depression tractors that he built out of '20s four cylinder Ch@@ys. They looked a lot like the model A that James B posted the picture of. They were never used from before I was born.
Actually, I wish I could get any of the tractors my grandfather had. Most of them had been sold when I was twelve. The last when I was fourteen. My parents wouldn't let me have one.
Maybe Henry P could help me find one? (As if he has nothing better to do) Their places were out near Empire, just East of Modesto.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2
My wife's not gonna like you....
What condition is it in and about how much would it take to buy it?
TD6 in the weeds...
The neat thing about the Caterpillar Two Ton was it's Hall-Scott designed engine...Yes the same Berkeley, Ca firm that built the Ruxtel axle, The Two Ton had an overhead head cam,
with hemispherical head, full pressure lubrication and that was 1925!
My Dad and I replaced all the bearings in ours, which were replaceable bronze shells with Babbitt linings. It had an Eismann magneto and a Zenith carb.
The Two Ton had a tiller bar for steering, and oil lubricated steering clutches and brakes. A very advanced tractor for it's time. It was a Holt design from Stockton, Ca built to compete with the Best crawler from San Leandro, Ca.
The Two ton was in fact, the first Caterpillar tractor, as Holt and Best merged during that time to form the Caterpillar Tractor Co. Oh what a sweet machine!
I picked up this 1986 Ford 3910 at an auction a few years ago. Mechanically, it was well maintained including an overhaul, new injector pump, alternator and steering valve. Runs and drives new but not too pleasing to the eye.
One of these days, I'd like to have it looking like this but without the snow plow. I need air conditioning down here.
I also have this 1957 John Deere 420C with a 10' boom.
Here's a home built that I put together back in 02 that was featured in Gas Engine Magazine. It uses a Model T steering wheel and light switch for a kill switch. I also made a rubber tired version with the IHC 3-5 hp engine but I can't find the pictures.
Chester is that a David Bradley front grill?
Barn fresh 1927 Cletrac....the barn just torn down. Last run, 1973. Henry Petrino used to ride on the fender when was a boy.
Toon, for some reason, the photo you posted reminded me of several I took last year when Anja and I were in Holland...
HI, Here are few pictures of a Pullford conversion I have had for many years. The advertisements came from John Danhauser. If I could figure out how to take a dvd that has video of this thing going though about 3' of snow it would be fun for all to see. It is sitting in a shed now. It is 1919 and runs well. I pulled the motor, did a ring job, adjusted the bearings, set the valves by the KR Wilson measurement method and slowed up the crank end lay by soldering in a piece of heavy ga copper wire in the rear main cap. I learned that on this site about 7 yrs ago.I t will start in the coldest weather as it has a warford with real neutral. With that tranny it will stand up on its tail. Local tractor pull would not let me use it as they were nervous about flp over with the big cleats.
it has been a great adventure. My poor mother went cuckoo when I drove it home 5 miles from the friend I bought it from, we put on regular rear wheels and stacked the iron ones behind the" seat"
HI it only lets me do one pict. here is another
I was wondering if you'd post those pictures here. Thanks! I NEVER get tired of looking at that old Cletrac.
HI here is another ad this time
Hi one last one for now. How come you cant put in multiples?
If anybody has a brake hub for my design, I wuld love to buy it. I have one which is cracked.
I did have a hilarious incident with it in the woods one day, I missed a shift with the warford, the hand brake was disconnectd so she went flying down a hill with no binders, fortunately into a thicket which stopped it nice and slow!
That's awesome, Andy. I would love to own a Pullford. They were built in Quincy, Illinois. I live in Hamilton, about 45 minutes north of Quincy.
Here is our latest from this year. As we entered the threshermen's show, the guy driving the sprayer (to keep dust down) stopped and picked up my grandson and away they went. Carter, my grandson(Mr Model T), loved it.
Come and visit him....I'm sure he would be happy to see you again.
The grill on my home built is a cut down David Bradley. The back portion was rusted up pretty bad so I didn't mind modifying it.
The Caterpillar 2 Ton Tractor
Here is the Holt version
Here is the conversion purchased recently. I have had the broken gear teeth built up that were missing. The E-Z Power PTO needed a lot of work (money). New shafts were made, welding on the case, bushings and new Babbitt still to be poured. Hopefully when I get back from vacation, I will put it all together before the thrashing shows start.
A modified T, donīt you think?
Best regards, Sven
A stationary Fordson I saw in Montespertoli/Italy a couple of years ago.
And a not Ford, but fun tractor on Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yHl24QynOM
Best regards, Sven
Lots of ooooold tractors, some Ts, and more........
Keller's tractor collection in Wisconsin. A lot of them are the first manufactured of a model or possibly one of a kind of any model.
Finally found the pictures of the 3-5 hp.
I just watched the first two shows of Green Acres. That sure is NOT a FORDSON! No way Jose.
It has the pulley on the left side about the same location as the flywheel on a John Deere.
I think maybe it is a poppin johnny disguised.
Aaron you are correct the first shows they used a John Deere "GP" tractor. Later they used a Fordson "F".
I never looked closely at the tractor but as I recall when my wife used to watch it I always though it was a John Deere because of the sound.
We used to see a few of those General Purpose (GP) John Deeres sitting in farmyards back home but I don't recall ever seeing one actually doing work.
I don't have any facts just scuttle butt on the tractor in "Green Acres".
The show was in part sponsored by Ford and if they were to keep their sponsorship they needed to eliminate the green machine.
Ken,do you know any of the back ground history of the 1957 John Deere 420C?
My dad used to run 1 of those I think for Duke Power to unload tower steel and so forth.I couldnt help but notice the sideloader setup.
Here is a picture of the only Ness crawler known to exist. Made from a converted model T. The steering levers are rear radius rods.
Here is a video of Miss Jillian driving it.
One of Ford's early experimental tractors. I think it's the one with a Model B engine. That's also Henry's K in the background.
Tom - That is absolutely one of the coolest crawlers I have ever seen!
This is our 1948 Case VAO. The tinwork is so tree branches will slide over the passing tractor without damaging tree or fruit. There were 1547 of these made but most didn't have the shields as that was an extra cost option. This tractor was bought new locally and used in an orchard until about 1960. This particular orchard was in the river bottoms and with floods, this tractor has been under water many times.
In 1965 the ground was cleared for a row crop operation and levies were built to protect from floods. This Case was fitted with a belly sickle mower to mow the levies and it continued to do that through 1992. In 1993 we had a "500 year flood" and the shaker on the mower was worn out so the farmers gave up on the poor old tractor.
My father-n-law bought the Case in 1994 to brushcut trails on his hunting farm. I went to pick the tractor up using my 1980 Chevy LUV and a tilt bed trailer. The farmer said "you'll want those fenders because they go with that tractor" and pointed to the fenders in the rafters of the old building. I looked up and said "those fenders don't go with this tractor". He said "sure they do, thats an orchard tractor and some day you'll want those so you better take them". I didn't know what an orchard tractor was but I got the fenders down and the Case decal was on them! There had been so much silt brought in by floods that I could reach up and grab the fenders while standing flat footed on the ground. He also told me there were extra parts in the dirt like the correct orchard manifold and other items so I dug around and found a huge pile of parts. The orchard manifold has no provision for a muffler so they took it off and put an ag style manifold on to quiet it down.
Everything was full of sand and the engine was locked up. I sanded the rust out of the cylinder walls, dropped the oil pan, cleaned the sand out, and got the ole girl running pretty good.
Father -n- law used the tractor for 9 years until the engine was too worn to pull a brushcutter anymore and he gave the tractor to us with the stipulation that I restore it to new condition. I left the tractor sit at the hunting farm for nearly two years because it was in such bad shape I was unsure if I wanted to tackle the project. In 2005 the Case national show was going to be at Lathrop, MO just one hour away so i tore into the case with gusto and this is the end result. The side shields were gone so I made those from scratch. Thanks for reading my ramblings.
OH, A few years ago the land sold and up in the rafters of the old building was the original sign from the orchard and I was able to purchase it. It is large [hard to haul] so I seldom show it with the tractor but it is good they are together again.
Saved this from the scrappers, I have two more for parts.
Dad and child number four on the 1964 Massey Ferguson 35 Diesel. Still have the tractor and the kid. Dad passed in 2009.
Made by a tractor company, and used as one 392, 5 speed Spicer, 3 speed Watson, 2 speed NP205 transfer case. 4.88 axles. Spicer 70 front, Eaton rear.
Back in the mid-70's I ran a TD-9 in the iron mines up in Northern Minnesota. I would have to dump in a gallon of oil every 2-4 hours. Finally it just gave up. They took the poor old thing down to the shop to the steam room and fired up the jenny. I was given the job of cleaning the grease and ore off it so they could rebuild it. Once I had it cleaned up they looked it over and retired it to the retro-grade yard. I've always liked the little crawlers. When I was a kid helping the old man in the woods we did a lot of work with a little John Deere that wasn't much more than a little B with tracks on it. It had all it could do to skid a load of 1/2 cord of Popple Bolts.But we worked it for years and it never broke. It was on tough little tractor for a John Deere out in the woods. Back around 2000 I had a little Cletrac Oliver that I rebuilt the motor on. It had a bucket on it and would move snow like a dream. The only problem I had with it was the starter was burned out. So I set-up a way to turn it over with an impact wrench. I suppose I could have found a starter for it but I was more interested in "necessity being the Mother of invention". I've also had several Farmalls. My favorites were an old 1930 Regular that I bought at a farm auction. It was all there but the motor was locked up and it was sitting in over a foot of hard dirt. It took me 2 years to get it going and I wish I had it. I also had a 1935 F12 I'd like to still have. And a '44 M, a '52 Super C, a pc of crap 560 Diesel that looked good but should have been scrapped the day it was born and 3 or 4 Allis Chalmers W-D's and W-C's. I loved my tractors. But now it's Old Ford Model T's and my tractor days are over.
I love crawlers, this is what I drive at WMSTR labor day weekends
All still in use but the DO does the most work around here. I refer to this tractor as Puerco de Petrol.
I call this tractor the "Fabricobble". It started life as a 1978 Sears garden tractor and I converted it to a Case crossmotor.
The engine is a two cylinder Wisconsin, the steering box is Cub Cadet, and the fenders are from my old fuel oil barrel before upgrading to propane. I made the hood with leftover 20 gauge sheetmetal from the orchard tractor project and the dummy radiator is an air conditioning condensor from a Chevy pickup.
Back wheels are from a Case horse drawn manure spreader and have the Case Old Abe eagle embossed in the cast hub.
It was a very fun project!
The plan is to someday make a period correct pull type prarie combine to go behind the Fabricobble.
LOL... I like it Kevin. I built the "Kenbota". It's another fabricobble.
Here is my OLIVER 25 as they were called here in Sweden.
In U.S. OLIVER 70
Here is an A Ford 1930 rebuilt to "EPA" tractor that they were called here in Sweden
A Ford body 1930, and Mercedes 170 model year 1952
Photo from 1980
Anybody have any good pics of a john Deere GPP? They are a rather rare bird..
WOW Ken! That is an awesome tractor.
The guys over at http://gardentractortalk.com/ would love to see Kenbota and hear all about its build.
Rob ; On my picture :
Saturday , Jan. 12 , 2013 - 11 : 12 am , there is a JD GP is that the tractor you are looking for ? What is a GPP ?
Boy, am I glad that someone knew how to move this back to the top, I love old iron, and am not at all surprised that our Model T Group share this. The picture is of me and my old John Deere D Rice Special. I bought it new in 1947, Lord Have Mercy, 66 years ago. This picture was made about 20 years ago, I was in the process of retiring, and was selling all my farm stuff. A fellow here in Central Texas bought me out, this tractor, three John Deere 420's, a John Deere hay baler, plows, discs, mowers, you name it, I had it. I hated to see the old girl go of all my stuff, I used it for mowing pasture, and it still fired right up, and would absolutely outpull anything around. When I bought this, I was rice farming, and tractors came out on steel, rubber was late in the 1950's, and I swapped out for rubber along about then. We welded extensions on the steel lugs, 8 or 10 inches more to make it through the mud. We plowed all winter in the mud, pulling a 3 bottom moldboard plow, then rolled the clods around for awhile trying to get a seed bed. We converted everything to Butane in the late 40's, a local gas plant gave us all we wanted free of charge, and we made a simple vaporizer and carburetor attachment to be able to burn Butane. These old tractors had water injection, kind of like the airplanes of WW2, but didn't need it with Butane. I never did anything to this old tractor except use it, Butane is wonderful in that regard, the oil stays clean, no wear on the internals and etc., which is why we converted everything over, plus it was free, and pickups and cars ran very well on it. When plowing with these tractors, the right front wheel would be in the previous furrow, and the left front, due to torque and the tractor trying to rare up, would be up in the air. I have plowed a many a round and never have both front wheels on the ground. About all I have left is the Shop Manuals for the 420's, and few other miscellaneous ones if anyone is interested. Time has a way of getting away from us, it sometimes bothers me to see some of these old pictures of "Back When", I wish now that I had mounted this old tractor on a stand and put it in the front yard, but I am afraid Mama would have never appreciated it.
Toon, the GPP was a specific GP made for potato production. Just over one hundred were made, all were shipped to Aroostook county Maine. Only ever seen one complete.