I am confused about the clamps used to secure the front bow to the top of the windshield. I am confused about whether the clamp should be secured to the front bow with the open cavity up or down.
Cup goes up.
And different ways as you wish to fit the rain flap above or make a hole for the stanchion post.
I'm not good at taking pictures, but the material that goes across the front of the front bow in no way interferes with the windshield posts, and has a second piece of material sewn to it, which is a flap that hangs down about 1 1/2- 2 inches in front of the windshield. I wanted to get a photo for you, but it's real cold in the garage, and the top is down with a boot on it. Those two pieces need to be reinforced, so they don't bend easily. There are two different styles of wing bolts too.
Dan, could you post pics of the wood bows with the dimensions and attachment specs on a '26 roadster? I am trying to figure this out to start mounting the irons. My T hasn't had a top on it since I got it. Just got the irons from a fellow member of my club and I don't know how to search to find out how it all goes together, Thanks in advance, Steve
Could you describe the difference between the different style wing bolts? Also was one used in early production and the other in late or were there just two different style wing bolts used throughout 26/27 open car production?
Specs for the wood and bows on '26-'27 runabout courtesy of another Forum poster.
Difference in the two styles of wing bolts.
Dan: I thought the style you show as '26-7 was for the 22-25, and the one you show for the '25 is for the '25-27. I've have some NOS complete assemblies, and they have the flat style.
Thanks, Dan. One more question, do the wood bows have an arch made into them or do they arch when mounted in the irons, or are they just flat? I made some bows to the specs you show and when I mounted the assembly to the car the wood arched up a little bit. Is this normal? Thanks again! I couldn't have done a lot of work I've done without the knowledgeable help of all the Guru's of the forum. Steve
The bow wood pieces are straight, there is a recess cut down on the ends to fit into the rectangular metal iron ends. You want the bows to be flat, so adj. the length of them if there is a substantial arch.
The retangular sides are supported with wood 'tack strips' that are fished down into the metal sockets, care made to not let these pieces stick up and interfere with the straight bow wood pieces, they should just butt up to each other.
Thanks,Dan. The pics are a big help. Steve
The July 1, 1927 parts book lists part number 3588X Bracket(top clamping) assembly for both 1922-1925 and 1927-1927 open cars. I did not see the wing nut listed separately.
Dan, is your photo incorrectly labeled as Larry suggests?
P.S. Please do not take this wrong, I think both of you are providing much help to the Model T world and encourage your participation. I am just trying to determine which is the later type wing nut for holding the top to the windshield bracket. Clarification now may eliminate possible confusion in the future.
No problem! I may be dead wrong on this part.
Was waiting for Original Smith to post again his reply to my picture.....well you know....I just don't for sure.
My '26-'27 irons came with those fancy wing nut, so just took it to mean they are correct...and fancy would have suited Edsel when he redesigned the Improved Ford?
But...maybe not, the plain flat one could be the Improved Car...anyone else know more on this?
This pic is poor, but looks like a fancy wing nut, on award winning '26 touring.
I am posting these Model A Ford pictures simple to show how some of the later improved T components carried over to the Model A's. It could well be that both wing nuts you have posted may have been used on the Improved T's.
I have an early AR Model A .
This picture is one of the windshield post bracket and wing nut.
The car had had a hard life doing farm work before I got it in 1977.
The wing nut has seen better days but it is still distinguishable as the flat variety. John
Here is a picture I have borrowed from a book. This picture is of an Original Model A Roadster Top.