Starter bushing problem

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2013: Starter bushing problem
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Lawson on Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 05:47 pm:

This is my first post and need help with a starter rebuild. I bought the new starter bushing with the neoprene seal and the short bushing that goes behind the the seal won't stay in the starter. Can I put blue thread lock to keep it from coming out?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Kopsky, Lytle TX on Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 07:53 pm:

The "short bushing" is a thrust washer. Don't glue it in. Put it on the armature shaft with a drop of oil, lube the shaft and slide it through the seal and bushing. Make sure the armature shaft is straight before assembling.

Also, check that the armature spins free with the Bendix inserted in the snout and over the shaft. I've never seen one of the bushings that didn't need line bored.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Lawson on Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 09:16 pm:

The bushing that I bought has a long bushing a neoprene seal and the short bushing behind it.I thought if this short bushing was loose it would spin with the armature and ruin the seal.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerry VanOoteghem on Wednesday, January 16, 2013 - 01:10 pm:

Robert,

Some photos would help.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Lawson on Wednesday, January 16, 2013 - 05:38 pm:

I could not get the picture to upload but the part # is T5105SK in the Mac's catalogue.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Kopsky, Lytle TX on Thursday, January 17, 2013 - 05:52 pm:



Ok, I don't know who's "brilliant" idea that was. Just insert the small bushing. If it touches the seal, you don't have large bushing pressed in deep enough. The seal should be a press fit also.

The "small bushing" you have should be a press fit. It's the only way you'll be able to ream the bushings after installed--The first time. The instruction say after the two bushings are installed and reamed, you have to press the smaller bushing back out, reposition the large bushing, install the seal then reinstall the small bushing. Brilliant!

Personally, I'd send it back to the vendor.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Kopsky, Lytle TX on Thursday, January 17, 2013 - 06:22 pm:

This is the kit I install. I make mine but I think Lang's sells this one. The bushing is installed ONCE then line bored with the snout bushing and perpendicular to the yoke mounting surface. The seal is installed after the bushing is sized to the armature shaft.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Lawson on Thursday, January 17, 2013 - 09:58 pm:

Thanks for your help Ken. I'm going to try and send this one back.


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