I need to know the the measurements of the sills for the 1913 roadster. Would also like to know if the turtle back is the same size as the 1914 or is it a little smaller in size. Pictures would be nice also. Thanks. Leon

Leon I don't know if there is any difference in the size of the turtle back but there is a difference in the shape, the 14 has rounded corners and the the 13 has squared corners. Here is a picture of the 14 with the rounded corners.

I know of the rear shape of the turtle backs. Someone said on the forum at one time that the 1913 sills are not as long as the 1914 and the 1913 turtle back is not as long as the 1914. I have a 1914 roadster and can get that measurement. I am drawing up a set of 1913 roadster wood plans. I also know that touring wood sills are smaller then the 1914 touring sills. I need to make sure of size of the 1913 roadster sills to have the prints correct. I have the rewooding plans completed for the 1913 touring and have them for sale. I have sold over six sets of the 1913 touring plans. I just sent out a set to Australia today.

Well I hope that someone with a 13 will chime in and give you some measurements.

Leon, they arrived this morning..... Thank you..

David.

Thanks Mike.
Dave, glad you got the door plans ok. Leon