I have come upon an accessory rear axle bearing replacement I have not seen before which I need to remove to split apart a rear axle assembly. Maybe one you 'Old Timers" (I'm one too but this type I have not seen before) might be familiar with this type - it has a large steel collar that butts up to the end of the housing that has been shortened as you would do for a "safety hub" set up, it is a sealed bearing that appears to be retained by a ring retainer which I removed but this thing doesn't want to budge ! Suggestions ? I will post some photos in the a.m. WAG's are welcome also !
Is there a bolt where the grease cup would normally be. Tim Moore an old timer.
No, there was a small "plug" installed in the hole previously used for the grease cup as well as another hole drilled into the backing plate in line with that hole that also had a small plug installed - quite a strange arrangement as there is no "locking" type bolt or set screw as you would find holding the "safety hub" spud in position - a bit hard to explain so photos will be forthcoming.
I assume you have "popped" the hub loose from the axle shaft?
Can you remove the two small "Plug's" that you have described? I made up bearing spuds that retain sealed ball bearings....and keep them locked in place using set screws silver soldered inside the original grease cups. I also incorporated internal axle seals in the inside spud dia. From the outside.....everything looks stock! No more loose roller bearings and leaking rear end grease.
Les, yes the wheels/hubs have been removed and the housing halves have had the bolts & nuts removed and I cannot force the halves apart - something holding the sealed bearings onto the axles as I can see nothing retaining the bearing/spud assembly into the housing ??????
Les, yes I removed both plugs and am looking at "nothing" - no retainer or locking bolt, set screw, etc.
I'm building up a Ruckstell for a customer and he was wanting to possibly use one or both of the axle shafts. I'll post photos in the morning.
Does the bearing run on the axle or is there a separate inner race? Can you support the axle housing and then attack the axle with a hub knocker and a small sledge hammer?
Looks though there is a separate inner race - here's some pics.
Looks to me like its a ball bearing with a sleeve adapter to fit the axle. My guess is that its a slip fit in the housing and a press fit on the axle.
Someone made the adapter and replaced the bearing from the outside without any thought of disassembly of the rear axle.
Steve - You know about how much I know (or,...don't know) about rear axles, but could you maybe put the axle nut on with one or more big heavy washers or something similar, and with a heavy gear puller and a slide hammer, maybe pull the whole business out, axle bearing and all?
I'm at a loss as to why the second hole was drilled into the housing as shown above as I can look inside the housing and see the axle ? I thought perhaps, it was to pry or ? to get the spud to move but after trying a 18" pipe wrench on the outer bearing ??? - whatever one wants to name it, it would not rotate as an assembly. I'm going to go build a fire in the shop and figure this out. What - no more WAG's ?
WAG maybe someone got real happy with locktite.
That's what I was going to say about RTV.
If you chain down one end of the axle housing, and the drive shaft, and bolts are out of the center housing, pull from the other side, with a come-a Long, it should come if there is nothing locking it.
This looks like a Gene Wright conversion from Oregon. I have the same setup on my speedster. Slowly rotate the axle while looking in the hole for the grease fitting and an allen screw should appear. Ditto for the other hole that is closer to the outboard end of the axle housing. The second one can require reshaping an allen wrench a bit to get to it. These allen screws lock the inner sleeve onto the axle shaft.
Steve - by the way, it will still probably be a pain to pull even after the allen screws are out. I've found need to a punch coming through the hole in the backing plate and a pipe wrench on the outside of the bearing hub to get it to move in the housing. It probably won't be a subtle process.
Looks like a set up from Kris Kristoffe. He machined the axle housing and pressed them in. Do not how to take them out , but they work well . I installed 3 or 4 in rear ends never had a problem . I will call him.
Thanks All - got them out this afternoon. I did find the small Allen head set screws Walt and while I managed to remove both from one side, the other side's access hole would not allow removal of the set screw. I installed a "knock-off" tool, held the backing plate between my legs and beat the bast--ds off. Both axles are excessively worn in the outboard bearing surface so I see why these were installed. Thanks again for the suggestions !