Racing in Sweden around 32

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Eubanks, Powell, TN on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 05:34 pm:

http://www.svtplay.se/klipp/129752?type=embed good video of vintage racing over there with boat tailed racecars. They really had fun with it in the middle of the winter.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Hjortnaes, Men Falls, WI on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 05:48 pm:

Studded tires. It looks so cold, but SO much fun. Would love to take my T on that race track.

Where's the Aquavit?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erich Bruckner, Vancouver, WA on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 05:49 pm:

That was fun. I thought I saw a few model A Fords, possibly a T based racer?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael Deichmann, Blistrup, Denmark on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 01:09 am:

I wonder if any of those have survived. Lets wait and see what Roger may tell.
Iceracing was a big thing all over Scandinavia, but biggest in Sweden. They had the freshwater lakes and the colder weather. This film seems to be the Swedish Championship (Grand Prix) and you can see it was i big event as the Swedish Railways even had put in special trains to the event. You can also see all the cars in the parkinglot (on the ice!!).
There where also icerace in Denmark - for example at the lakes in Copenhagen - also for motorcycles (!!!).
I couldn't find a picture from Copenhagen, but here is one from Hillerød - at the lake at Frederiksborg Castle:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George Clipner-Los Angeles on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 03:23 am:

Fun vid. ju betcha.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 05:10 am:

It's a film from Swedish Grand Prix, february 26, 1933 at lake Rämen in Dalarna. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Winter_Grand_Prix
It was won by textile factory owner P-V Widengren in a Alfa Romeo 8C Monza, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfa_Romeo_8C Another A/R Monza took second place.
Modified Model T Fords were never common in swedish racing it seems, but the same race in 1932 was won by a modified Model A Ford with a "Record" OHV conversion. Modified Ford V8:s were also successful in swedish racing, specially right after WW2 when modern race cars were scarce. In the 1933 race a modified Ford V8 took third place.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roar Sand on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 09:09 am:

Roger,
Just wanted to mention that, as I heard it, the number two car was a Norwegian entry.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael Deichmann, Blistrup, Denmark on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 01:44 pm:

One of the first cars you see close up is a Volvo. It's in the lineup and it's the one with the diagonal line on the radiator.
About 1:27 you see #11 registration number U14 which is either a 1932 Model B or 18 (V8). In 1933 that's a pretty new car, so it must be either a very wealthy driver or a factory team?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roar Sand on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 02:26 pm:

I went to a few races on the ice on lakes around Oslo in the fifties. I'll never forget a Type 57 Bugatti leaving a '55 or '56 small block Chevy in a cloud of white dust.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Alex Dragone on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 07:27 pm:

Forget the Fords, they were driving a Mercedes SSK! and Bugatti type 35 grand prix car! I only skipped through the video, but there are some good cars in there


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Horlick in Penn Valley, CA on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 07:28 pm:

In Michael's photo there's a chain on the front right tire of the MGTC #26, I don't see one on the rear, however. Ice racing doesn't look like a lot of fun to me!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fritz Hady Mt. Top,Pa. on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 08:56 pm:

The winner appears to be an Alfa Romeo.
I didn;t know MG had a TC that early


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aaron Griffey, Hayward Ca. on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 09:37 pm:

The T series MG sports cars started in 1936.
There was a TA, a TB and after the war there was a TC. The TC had a slightly wider body than the TB.
There were cars before the T series that looked a lot like the T series cars.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Friday, January 25, 2013 - 02:20 am:

The MG in the 1933 Swedish Grand Prix was a J type with a small 840 cc (51 cui) engine. It finished second last, one hour after the winning Alfa.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aaron Griffey, Hayward Ca. on Friday, January 25, 2013 - 09:47 pm:

In '32 there was the J2, in '33 there was a J3, which was a J2 with a supercharger running off the front end of the 2 main bearing crankshaft.
The overhead cam was driven by a shaft strait up the front of the engine with a bevel gear at top and bottom. The generator was in the middle of the shaft, of course since British cars are not really know to leak oil.....
at least the generator bearings got plenty of oil.
Finished second to last? he wasn't last and he did finish.


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