''K'' body styles --Series one & series two

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2013: ''K'' body styles --Series one & series two
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Trevan - Australia on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 05:42 am:

Hi Dave, Below is shown the two body styles you asked for. 1906 Series [1] is called a tulip styled body. Series two is very much just like a bigger version on the early ''T'' body. If there was enough interest in doing a comparison of items changed between the two series while both series are still handy to me in AUSTRALIA i or Francis may be talked into it ?..


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 03:11 pm:

If I recall correctly, the "tulip" style was very popular in Europe at that time. Cadillac offered their cars in both tulip and straight styles for several years so their customers could have the choice. Personally, I have always preferred the straight style in both product lines. Although I would sure love to have a tulip K Ford!
Thank you Bob T, for posting these pictures!
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erich Bruckner, Vancouver, WA on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 05:51 pm:

Are there any tulip Ks around still?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen - Nebraska on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 07:46 pm:

Erich,

Bob who began the thread owns (and tours with) K number 2. I'm sure he'll be happy to post a few pics of it if he sees this.

Rob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen - Nebraska on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 07:50 pm:

I hope Bob doesn't mind, his link on the HCCA educational video page showing his Model K:

http://www.hcca.org/EDU/presents.php?1906_Model_K_Ford


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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Trevan - Australia on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 08:09 pm:

Hi Rob,
Not sure if the interested will be able to understand my AUSTRALIAN version of the English language ?.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 08:17 pm:

Bob, do you have any "before" pictures of the remains you started your remarkable K resurrection with?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Trevan - Australia on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 09:38 pm:

Hi Roger, Sadly the only pictures i got from the original finder of the cars remains are from inside the shed were the car was dismantled for items needed around the sea side estate.Anything outside the shed had rusted into the ground although the locals can recall the front axle surviving in the river as a mooring boy for many years. Fortunately when the engine mounts were cut for the engine to go into a boat , there was still enough leg left to show the engine number together with same on the rusty flywheel.What followed was again fortunate in that most of the missing items i was able to obtain from the remains of car #28 located in TEXAS U.S.A.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Trevan - Australia on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 03:47 am:

Hi Roger , I have a complete dossier on the restoration but i will here endeavour to give you a brief overview from the moment i verified the engine number and the deal was done . First thing was to go to the HENRY FORD archives in Detroit and get as much info as possible on the series 1 car. I then went over to the TOWE MUSEUM in Sacramento and did a detail study and measurement of a 1906 series1 . It was then back home to start on the project.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Trevan - Australia on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 04:02 am:

First job was to have the crankcase lug ends cast and welded in place. then have the engine reconditioned and assembled


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Trevan - Australia on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 04:15 am:

Next job was the transmission---After a complete overhaul and fitted into a newly cast frame --then fitted to engine now in chassis


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Trevan - Australia on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 04:47 am:

Next was the differential.
After a complete recondition it was then fitted into the chassis.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Trevan - Australia on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 05:21 am:

Now for the last unit to be assembled and fitted to make the ''K'' a rolling chassis.\


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Trevan - Australia on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 05:33 am:

There is a brief overview of ''K2'' up to rolling chassis stage.At this point i was still keeping a costing of work in progress but it was not to much further along that did not want to know. Apart from that i was so far in there was no turning back.
Hope you have enjoyed the trip .


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 05:50 am:

Thanks, fantastic work - and great luck finding most of the missing chassis parts in Texas :-)
Did you have to reproduce all of the tulip body? Do you think the Towe Museum 06 is the only original tulip touring body left?
Did you upgrade your 06 according to the 1907 Ford "recall"?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Trevan - Australia on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 06:44 am:

Hi Roger,The body was a complete rebuild as i think the white ants got there many decades before me.
As for the FORD rebuild on the 1906 ''K'' series. I do not know what they could have done without a massive alteration to some vital components Eg CHASSIS-RADIATOR.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Trevan - Australia on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 07:18 am:

A component i have that may have been amounts the items FORD used in their updating of the 1906 car for resale.This is a manual gear box which was made by 'COVERT' to fit the ''K'.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen - Nebraska on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 07:28 am:

Bob,

I'm also curious as to how many "updated" may have been included in the refurbishing. Ford obviously recognized and addressed many of the shortcomings of the first series judging by the changes made for 1907.

The 1906 model was only available from summer until October 1906. I've heard there were 300 - 350 1906s sold. Do you have a number?

Thanks for the photos and info,

Rob

A news clip about the "first recall":
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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Byrne - Racine, MN on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 10:14 am:

This is a great story, but with all do respect Bob and Rob, shouldn't this kind of information ALSO be on the Early Ford Registry forum? The EFR was established to be an information archive for the pre-Model T Ford cars. I know many of the guys here on this forum enjoy the early Fords, but wouldn't it be great if you also posted it on the EFR forum so the information is there too?

http://www.earlyfordregistry.com/


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen - Nebraska on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 10:26 am:

Roger,

I agree. I've tried to place some portions on the EFR site. It's much more time consuming to place all the attachments because you may only upload three at a time.

Also, the "exposure" is much greater on this site (that can be a "double edged" sword :-) ).

Also, I intend to do a newsletter for the EFR site with much of this info, hopefully for the spring newsletter.

Thanks,

Rob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Dunlavy, Iowa USA on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 06:51 pm:

The attachment limit has been raised. I would like to see the Early Ford postings be placed (or duplicated) on the EFR Users Forum. There might be some EFR members that don't regularly read the MTFCA forum.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Trevan - Australia on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 07:14 pm:

I hear you Dave, I will see if i can do it --Wish you could do it for me . BOB T


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 08:23 pm:

Why not have the EFR site just show links to the threads on this Forum?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen - Nebraska on Friday, January 25, 2013 - 12:08 am:

Ralph,

I've done that before.

Sometimes the good thing about this site (MTFCA) is the "bad" thing, the posts become quite long and drift. I need to do a better job of linking them over to the EFR site.

Dave, good to hear from you. There is real interest on this site about your quadricycle project so we should "cross link" that too.

Rob


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