ACCESSORY OF THE DAY - 01/23/13 - HEATER EXHAUST MANIFOLD

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2013: ACCESSORY OF THE DAY - 01/23/13 - HEATER EXHAUST MANIFOLD
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay - In Northern California on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 11:47 am:

These are missing the sheet metal shroud that channels the heat into the cab. The shroud bolts to the manifold in three places.



Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael Mullis on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 01:08 pm:

I have one on our 16' with the shroud.
I'll snap a photo and post it tonight


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 02:55 pm:

Jay - Had an interesting thought,..........because this type manifold has more mass (more cast iron) than a normal stock Model T manifold, do you suppose they have less of a tendency to warp? Anybody ever run across a warped one? Just wondering,..........harold


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Tomaso - Milton,WA on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 03:15 pm:

I've got two and neither one was/is warped.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Patrick Martin on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 03:49 am:

Here's mine :-)



Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Patrick Martin on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 03:51 am:

I have the shroud too.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 04:00 am:

Harold Schwendeman:

I have them on two of my cars and neither one has ever warped. I had a chance to buy another at a swap meet awhile back that they were just about giving it away because the threads were bad. Later I could have kicked myself because I have about 10 exhaust manifolds with good threads that I could have cut off and installed on the heater manifold. Live and Learn?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ake Osterdahl on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 05:39 am:

Patrick, you have a photo of shroud, I have the rest but no cover.
Can not be hard to produce a new one yourself.
Shall sit on my model T Coupelet 1918
Thanks Ake


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dale L Myers on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 07:39 am:

Both of my 26 T's have a 2-1/2" or 3" hole cut in the firewall in line with the exhaust manifold. I have seen these heater manifolds before but have never seen the shroud.
Pictures would be greatly appreciated.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By James Chochole on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 08:15 am:

Weren't these called a "Heatilator?"


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay - In Northern California on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 10:19 am:

I was hoping some one would post a picture of the shroud for this manifold. it would be helpfully for those of us missing one who want an idea of how to fabricate one.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robbie Price on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 10:25 am:

I have one, brand name is Arvin I think. If no one posts a picture by the weekend I will try to drag mine out and take one of it. still has original paint and decal on it.
Robbie


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 10:28 am:

Rob posted nice pictures of the manifold heater cover on one of his cars here: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/80257/110173.html?1255364096

Dave Huson posted pictures of his heater here: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/29/42639.html?1197687183

Someone called Bob posted pictures of the cover in this thread too: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/29/42502.html?1198039954

I'm sure there are more to find in previous forum threads - I search the forum with google.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George_Cherry Hill NJ on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 10:36 am:

The Arvin is very much like the first photo in the other thread. I have one on the Hack (oxymoron since the Hack has no curtains, but it came that way and had nibbled the firewall and floorboards for the grate piece)

Someone approached me one time about reproducing the Arvin since it was all sheet metal and I made up some drawings and sent them to him. He never reproduced, but if someone were to want to make one themselves, I'm sure I could find the sketches and dimensions with some digging.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Doug Money - Braidwood, IL on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 10:50 am:

Patrick, that is pretty.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George_Cherry Hill NJ on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 10:59 am:

ahh....found it without too much digging...here goes...

Don't mind the grub...as received, it's all pretty now :-)...



Here is the inside grate on the floorboards (yes they are later pedals modified to fit the earlier spacing :-) easier on the feet!...



And finally the sketch...on next post due to two pic limit :-(


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George_Cherry Hill NJ on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 11:00 am:

and the sketch........


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Doug Money - Braidwood, IL on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 05:06 pm:

Thanks George, I am making myself one of those this winter.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Eubanks, Powell, TN on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 05:20 pm:

If anybody is making the shroud for one of those finned cast manifolds, I sure would like to get contact info. Realize it is nothing but sheet metal but a correct fit would save a lot of trouble. I have two heaters in use, both are the type that surround the exhaust pipe under the floor. They work very well and are absolutely free from carbon mox.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dale L Myers on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 07:56 pm:

Thank you Roger and George.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 08:12 pm:

Jay - So glad you started this "Accessory of the Day" thread on the finned heater exhaust manifold Jay. After all of the above positive responses, I'm pretty convinced that these manifolds, due to the extra "mass" of cast iron as opposed to the stock Ford manifold, tend to resist warping, sort of like the Anco or Wilmo combination intake/exhaust manifolds. I have a Wilmo combination manifold (intake & exhaust are one-piece casting) on my '27 depot hack and that type manifold also tends to resist warping. Now I'm wondering if a properly fitted sheet metal shroud over the Wilmo combination manifold would capture enough heat to act somewhat as a heater type manifold. I think it would work, just not quite as well as the finned manifold as shown in the pictures above. I'm sure tempted to try to make a sheet metal shroud to fit over my Wilmo and try it. Anybody ever done anything like this?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Patrick Martin on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 08:37 pm:

Hey hey, unfortunatley I am at work for a few more days so I can't go home just yet but I will post back to this thread as soon as I do with pics.

The manifold I bead blasted to bare metal then coated with that ceramic based engine manifold paint. I did that after I preheated the manifold with a torch and applied the paint to it hot. Let me assure you, that silver color will be on there for YEARS if you apply that paint like this.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 08:44 pm:

Jay - So glad you started this "Accessory of the Day" thread on the finned heater exhaust manifold Jay. After all of the above positive responses, I'm pretty convinced that these manifolds, due to the extra "mass" of cast iron as opposed to the stock Ford manifold, tend to resist warping, sort of like the Anco or Wilmo combination intake/exhaust manifolds. I have a Wilmo combination manifold (intake & exhaust are one-piece casting) on my '27 depot hack and that type manifold also tends to resist warping. Now I'm wondering if a properly fitted sheet metal shroud over the Wilmo combination manifold would capture enough heat to act somewhat as a heater type manifold. I think it would work, just not quite as well as the finned manifold as shown in the pictures above. I'm sure tempted to try to make a sheet metal shroud to fit over my Wilmo and try it. Anybody ever done anything like this?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 09:08 pm:

Sheeesh,.....can't seem to do anything right today! No idea how this double post happened,.....sorry,.....harold


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Monday, August 12, 2013 - 01:31 am:

Harold Schwendeman:

I have two heater manifolds that I use on my cars plus some more that I sold. You are right none of them have ever been warped.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Monday, August 12, 2013 - 06:51 am:

Battery powered CO detectors are as little as $20 at Home Debt.


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