An unusual Model TT-Photo

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Herb Iffrig on Sunday, January 20, 2013 - 08:09 pm:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Halpin on Monday, January 21, 2013 - 02:04 am:

That license plate location is certainly unusual.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker on Monday, January 21, 2013 - 07:14 am:

Great photo of a 1918 to possibly early 1919 Ton Truck. Rationale: It has the wishbone above the axle that was phased out during early 1919 with the introduction of the wishbone below the axle. Based on the condition of the paint, fenders, etc. of the truck I believe it appears to be a new or nearly new truck. I would guess that a higher resolution photo would probably allow us to read the license plate better -- is it a dealer plate for a truck to be delivered or a normal owner's plate?



Some additional details based on Bruce’s (RIP) CD, book, and/or on line encyclopedia.

Ref: http://mtfca.com/encyclo/1919.htm
MODEL YEAR DATES: January 1919 to August 1919. also:
FRONT AXLE: Same axle as the 1918 cars. The radius rod now connected below the axle, at the spring perches, making a stronger assembly. Roller bearings in front wheels except in the non-starter, non-demountable open cars.
From page 518 of Bruce’s book – Engine Production number has 2,831,426 listed as the fist engine serial number stamped on Jan 1, 1919. [That would not necessarily have gone into a car that day – but is listed as a reference point.]
From Bruce’s “Price List of Parts” for the front radius rod he has the note for the new style under the front axle radius rod (part 2733B) – “Used after first 56,000 1919 cars.
2,831,426 plus 56,000 gives us 2,887,427 which on the engine production records would be Feb 6, 1919.
[Note Bruce’s “Price List of Parts” is included in his excellent “Model T Comprehensive Encyclopedia” CD that is available from Barbara – see: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/331880/333725.html?1357665853 ]

Ref: http://mtfca.com/encyclo/doc19.htm
APR 14, 1919 Acc. 235, Box 39, #385, Ford Archives
"From this date two distinct designs of front radius rods, together with front spring perches, right and left, one on the Model T and the other on Model TT.
"The Model TT design will be assembled beneath the axle, instead of above the axle through the spring perch as heretofore.
"Although it would be possible to use the Model T design on the Model TT, we request this be resorted to only in case of a shortage serious enough to threaten loss of production."

APR 14, 1919 Acc. 78, #385, Ford Archives
New radius rod used at first on the TT chassis. Roller bearings at first on the TT and on the closed cars.

It would be great if we could locate some additional information concerning the timing for the introduction of the front radius rod below the front axle and approximate dates of overlap. Anyone have some early photos of cars or trucks with a known production date etc.? Any other documentation? Any other good fossil record?

Respectfully submitted,

Hap l9l5 cut off


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Stroud on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 06:15 pm:

It also has solid rubber rear tires and the rear axle housings with the bead where the axle tubes are pressed in. Looks like clear headlight lenses also. Dave


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Davis-SE Georgia on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 08:34 pm:

Is that body what you would call a "Canopy Express"?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Joe Van Evera on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 10:11 pm:

Looks like it has a speedometer. Would that be to tell how slow you are going?


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