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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Garrison_Rice Minnesota on Monday, January 28, 2013 - 10:10 pm:

Well it came down to watching The Wrestling show or the American Pickers. So I flipped back and forth for a little while and though I started to think Frank kind of reminds me of "Mad Dog Vachon", I went ahead and switched to wrestling when the guy with the Model T started telling the two from Iowa that Henry Ford was thrifty and used the wood for the crates that the parts were shipped in for floor boards in his cars.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Willis Jenkins on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 12:07 am:

I don't think about it being thrifty, but not wanting to be wasteful. Even back in the day. I believe that is why he came up with the briskets for Kingsford charcoal. Waste not want not.

Willis


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fred Wicker on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 07:36 am:

Watch Wrestlin,that pickers stuff is Fake.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By William L Vanderburg on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 07:54 am:

People continue to perpetuate rumors that they have heard all their lives, true or not.

I don't believe that Ford came up with the idea of briskets because of "waste not, want not". Ford, if he was anything, was a capitalist. Kingsford was just another opportunity to make MONEY.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john kuehn on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 08:21 am:

I was watching American Pickers and also caught the line from the guy with the Model T saying the line about Ford using the shipping crates for floor boards.

Also did anybody catch the line from one of the Pickers saying (and they were all black also?)

I guess its kind of like the Dr's Coupe saying thats used a lot. But thats enough on that subject.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ray Green on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 08:25 am:

Hi, we get them and cash cowboys over here in Australia and now there are antique dealers calling them selves Australian pickers, I was talking to one guy at a boot sale who said he had registered the name here but I have seen two other dealers with the same name in the wanted adds in the rural papers, I told him he was forty years to late as most antique car collectors have been doing that at swap meets.
I can not see how they can make a profit on the things they buy after driving across the US or Canada with the price of fuel, motels and food, like how far is a $10 profit going to get you on some items and you would need a lot of big items to keep going as well as pay for the sex pot in the office.. Ray


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric Hylen- Central Minnesota on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 08:59 am:

Come on guys, pro wrestling is real, Henry did say "any color you want as long as its black" and he hated the Model K, which was a piece of junk and a sales flop!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Wrenn on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 09:13 am:

Ooooh, Eric! Shouldnt've said that about the Model K---here comes a whole new thread!! ;)
I do love your Touring in the profile....a '14, am I right?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Frank Harris from Long Beach & Big Bear on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 09:35 am:

American pickers is a show made for entertainment.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Charlie B actually in Toms River N.J. on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 09:45 am:

Locations are checked out and picked items are found before filming begins. If "you got nutthin'" you're not making the show. Ever notice on Pawn Stars when ever their discussing an item the store's empty or near empty? You can't get near that place and the guy's can't work the counters anymore.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tex Holtby on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 10:07 am:

I've actually been to that house with the model t before. I got a kick out of Mike & Frank saying that they were "free styling" in upstate New York and decided to just try driving down that street and see what they could find. No way they could have ever found that house by "chance" - Good entertainment however....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay - In Northern California on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 11:05 am:

At times I find viewing the test pattern on TV to be more rewarding then watching reality TV.



Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kevin/Kris Golden on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 12:00 pm:

I'd much rather be out in the shop playing with my TT instead of wasting time watching scripted and unreal "reality" shows.
:-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Wolf on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 12:02 pm:

Jay, I'm with you.
I don't watch reality shows. Most are stupid. Now, the Weather Channel is turning into a reality show.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Daron - Brownsburg IN on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 12:08 pm:

Mike and Frank beat the crap out of all this early ford stuff! JMHO,yours may vary.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 01:38 pm:

Jay, I stopped at Jimmy Krehbiel's house after school and he turned on the TV and showed me that test pattern. The programming didn't start until 6:00 PM. On Thursday nights I used to walk two blocks to his house to watch The Lone Ranger.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Don Lyon, PDX, OR. on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 02:00 pm:

The guy I bought my T from had an old T crate and it was stenciled on the side of the crate to unpack carefully because the boards were to be used for the floor of the car, Don.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen - Nebraska on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 02:13 pm:

Eric,

I saw that :-)

Rob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Charlie B actually in Toms River N.J. on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 02:14 pm:

The legend started some place.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Willis Jenkins on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 02:19 pm:

That is where you can really score the money. Reusing what is normally considered waste, into a new product that people will use time and time again. Henry Ford recognized this potential.

Willis


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Garrison_Rice Minnesota on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 02:19 pm:

You're saying they made crates out of tongue and groove boards in order to meet Henry's requirements? Or did they have some kind of 4 or 5 head shaper that they ran the wood through... But than machining the wood to make tongue and groove is going to add cost to the product. So I guess he must have had his crates made out of tongue and groove material, but wouldn't that add cost to the crates. I guess it's a question that will haunt us for a long time. Don are your boards tongue and groove? Can you show a picture of that stamp? It would eliminate a lot of repeated discussion about this subject. I looked for stamps like it on my floorboards but there aren't any markings at all. I'm pretty sure mine are original. Nothing else on the car leads me to believe anything has been changed on it since it was built originally. Dang it now you've got my curiosity going.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric Hylen- Central Minnesota on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 03:14 pm:

Mike, everybody knows the floorboard thing actually started with the Model K. You see, it was an unprofitable car and Henry figured the only way that he could come out on it was to reduce costs by making the shippers provide shipping crates that could double as floorboard and firewalls. I'm sure Royce has posted the documentation for this in one of his rants against Rob.

The Moon really is made of cheese!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Seth - Ohio on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 03:44 pm:

Eric, Your right, after Henry loosing his a$$ on the Model K it's the only way he could make a profit. I know because I read it on the internet so it has to be true. And I heard him say it!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric Hylen- Central Minnesota on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 03:51 pm:

Dennis,
Are you still dating that French supermodel that you met on the Internet? :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Willis Jenkins on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 04:33 pm:

Glad people are opening their eyes and seeing the Model K for what it was. :-)

Willis


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Herb Iffrig on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 04:39 pm:

Can someone look it up in either the Vintage Ford or The Model T Times. I seem to recall a printed article that gave some credence to the floorboard story. It might be listed in one of the indexes.

Herb


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 05:18 pm:

The floorboard story has been debunked by many. Trent Boggess (I think) wrote an article on the subject in Vintage Ford. The story completely removes credence.

The American Pickers went to a friend of mine's place and bought some things last year, and the episode has been on TV many times since (hint - embalming).

His report was that the negotiations were real the first time but they had to repeat some things a few times to get all the shots the camera man needed. Overall he liked them and would do it again.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By george house on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 05:53 pm:

If I ever see that danged Mercedes 'Antique Archeology' van coming down my drive, I'll be out on the porch with a shotgun. Two of the most annoying characters on TV will put it in reverse and scat - but quick. If I never hear, "Theres just not enough meat on the bone" or "I bought it from that widder for only $85 and I know I can get $450" - again . . . . it'll be too soon.
Uncle Jack - whatdoyamean by "Mike and Frank beat the crap out of all this early ford stuff"?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Henrichs on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 05:56 pm:

I once found T floorboards that had been nailed together to make a storage crate. Some of Henry's dealers were thrifty too! Unfortunately one had been cut off straight on the sides.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mack Cole ---- Earth on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 06:29 pm:

Well that show is rigged,fake and a joke and has ruined the hobby of collecting antiques because now everybody with that dang cable tv channel thinks their junk is worth as much as what they saw on tv.
My uncle has that cable tv and I saw some of the stupid stuff,Call of the wild man,some idiot going around catching damn big turtle looking things out of ponds and such.

I am like you George,dont let me catch that van comeing in my driveway either.Dont care for the crap.
And there is another show on that channel,Restore something or other,that is also ridiculas.
Some fellow brought them a Bantum tractor to restore and they gave him a Stupid estimate and the nutcase let them do it!
Now everybody thinks it cost that much to restore something they will just haul it to the scrap.Saw a Jim dandy tractor on a truck load the other day.Couldnt follow the fellow or I woulda missed a appointment.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Garrison_Rice Minnesota on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 07:47 pm:

Mack, I decided long ago I'd let those two idiots up the driveway. I really can't stand the little short fat guy with the beard (Frank). And I'd really like to tell that sawed off little piece of dogcrap what I really think of him. I've got the cable TV because I really enjoy the Speed and the military channels. The History, Natgeo and Discovery channels use to have some good documentaries but now they're all crap. Now tonight at 8:00 there's going to be a show on PBS about Henry Ford I've never seen before and I'm interested in watching it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By keith g barrier on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 07:57 pm:

Speaking of the floor boards, I can just see running used lumber through the machines to cut the tounge and grooves and hittin a nail that someone missed pulling. You have to remember it takes time to tear old crates down. I don't think Ford would have ever spent that money. KB


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 08:00 pm:

PBS Antiques Roadshow values most stuff at about five times reality. They have some really good stuff among the trite, and when they get to the value, I just smile.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 08:00 pm:

PBS Antiques Roadshow values most stuff at about five times reality. They have some really good stuff among the trite, and when they get to the value, I just smile.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Garrison_Rice Minnesota on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 08:04 pm:

Ralph, I think I heard that somewhere.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Darren J Wallace on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 08:40 pm:

We have "Canadian Pickers" on our "History Channel"
The guys on our show are twice the a-holes Mike and Frank are on a good day.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Dewey, N. California on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 10:33 pm:

Darren,
I'd rather watch the Red Green show instead!!
:-)
David D.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mack Cole ---- Earth on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 11:44 pm:

You know,come to think of it,I have some RCA color bar and test pattern generators down in the shed.1 is near mint.I ought to hook 1 up for my dad since he fuss's about nothing on tv!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By JAMES STARKEY Naperville, IL on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 - 01:18 am:

I ran across Mike Wolf (the skinny guy)in Iowa a year before the show. He was only buying old bicycles & old cycles & their parts back then and he sold a lot of his wares on eBay and local antique bike shows/markets.

Here's an entertaining link that exposes just how fake Pickers, Storage Wars, Pawn Stars really is.

http://www.americanpickersfake.com/

The show is totally scripted, all fake and the prices they pay for some of the stuff is just plain ridiculous. If you look in the background of the Iowa based shop when the 'tattooed lady' ( a former roller derby star) is on the phone talking to them you will see nearly everything they bought in previous episodes still sitting on shelves or on display. They would be broke in two weeks paying the prices they do for the random junk like an old Singer sewing machine table. Heck you can still find those at yard sales 50 miles from any city for $25.00 or less (not $150.00)!

I've had the name of that show thrown in my face just about every second farm or storage shed I go visit since that show came on. I hate the name 'Picker' too. A picker was a field worker who picked; strawberries, apples, pears or cherries in my neck of the woods. I don't mean I hate the fruit pickers, I did it myself as a school kid to earn a couple bucks and we all hated the back breaking work for the lousy pay.

And its true, now people who don't know what they have to sell, think their rusted junk is worth its weight in gold because of that stupid TV show. Jimmy


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fred Dimock, Newfields NH, USA on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 - 03:50 am:

If I got a plastic crate and made it into a floorboard would it be an original part?

Inquiring minds want to know!!


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