Just thought I would introduce myself to the group before I start shamelessly asking for help or advice. I am new to the Model T and purchased a 1922 Touring right after Thanksgiving. It is the first model T I have ever messed with but I always liked watching them motor down the road on the rare occasion. Up until today I had never really drove the car except to roll it off the trailer when I brought it home. I changed the oil and flushed the radiator today so I thought why not give it a try. I live on a short private road so I did not take it out on the open road yet. Wow what fun I had just going back and forth, okay I'm hooked! My wife just stood in the driveway shaking her head. She knows like everything else I cannot just have one!! I have been lurking on here the last couple weeks and sure have learned a lot from everyone already. I have joined the club but have not got my membership number yet. I'll post a picture as soon as I get one uploaded.
John in Martin Ohio
Welcome! We would love to see some pictures of your car.
If you do decide to post some pictures, be aware that there is a file size limit of 250K per picture. As far as I know there is no limit to the number of pictures per post. If you post multiple pictures and some don't show up in the preview, don't worry, they will all be there in the final post.
It is nice to have new folks join in the fun. It looks like you may be able to help us with some technical information also.
Welcome aboard from a fellow Buckeye !
The learning curve is pretty easy here...
Happy T'ing. T'ing is fun with a group, but sometimes just alone on a back road enjoying the sights and sound of the T.
Good news John for you! T's are unique and a big part of this country's experiences and real Americana.
A good thing to always remember about a T is that they don't have real brakes. You said you were fairly new to them and always remember to drive them as if you don't have brakes. Sounds crazy I know but it's a really good point to remember.
It's the best 100 year old technology you'll ever run across. Have fun!
Welcome. It's a BIG change from automated machinery. I love the Ts because there's no computers, modems, fiber optics, HMIs and the code is used friendly. The hard part was learning the terms and names for the parts. It's an addictive hobby. Learn to use the search feature of this site and there's almost nothing you can't fix.
Hey guys, we bagged another one!
Welcome to the affliction!
John K, "brakes are for woosies" Dale Earnhardt...lol
Congratulations on your new Ford!
Since you are new to Model T's please take a look at the safety items at the posting at:
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/599638/696360.html See the 11th posting down "the long one by Hap."
It tells you many helpful things that were common knowledge back in the day and to those who have been driving Ts for years. But there are some surprises for new owners. Remember Experience maybe the best teacher, but it gives the test and then the lesson.
I would also encourage you to check out the local Model T Ford club(s) near you. If there is not a club near by, there may be some members or other Model T owners near you. See:http://www.mtfca.com/clubpages/chapters.htm and http://www.modelt.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5&Itemid=15 They can be a real source of encouragement and help you as you learn to maintain the car.
Steve Jelf has an excellent set of books he recommends for new owners on his web site at: http://dauntlessgeezer.com/ with the T section at: http://dauntlessgeezer.com/DG52.html and the recommended books listed at: http://dauntlessgeezer.com/DG80.html
Note there are also free “how to books” on the internet such – see: https://books.google.com/books?id=uKVAAQAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=editions:x R56bbT2W68C&hl=en&sa=X&ei=tdpWVMi4PMOjgwSAhoC4Ag#v=onepage&q&f=false and there are others – on the net.
And the Ford Service is online at: http://mtfci2002.readyhosting.com/manuals/Model_T_Service_Manual/mtsm.html and does include the starter equipped cars. The owners/instruction manuals are at:http://www.mtfca.com/books/bookmenu.htm and the 1921 would work great for your 1922 car. Also the Ford Instruction Course on that same page the link is: http://www.mtfca.com/books/Course.htm And to help you with parts identification etc. I like Lang’s Old Car Parts on line catalog (you can also down load it as a PDF) available from: https://www.modeltford.com/download.aspx 16 mb so on a slow connection start the down load when you are going to do something else. Many of the photos are in color. Many but not all of the part numbers are the same as those used by Ford. They also have some helpful tips in the catalog. Lang's as well as most of the other vendors are great folks to deal with.
Also please take a look on the right front floor board riser (the part that holds the top 2 smaller floorboards in place). There may be a number there. If so, it is likely the body number and if you find one, please let me know what it says. Additional info on body numbers at the Forum posting “Home for the Holidays” at: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/29/40322.html
Good luck with your T and we look forward to seeing a photo of it when you have a chance.
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Welcome from Columbus!
John, Looks like your not to far East of me, welcome to the most fun hobby in the world or should I say of the world. There are so many forum members from all over the world. If you should decide to join a club (highly recommended) we have a chapter of the MTFCI here in our area. Jim
John: I will say welcome and I am in Northern California. Not far from where the worst fire in California has had in the history of the state.
As you said you are lurkio9ng in the wings for a second one- been there done that. I have a 19 Touring and went on to the Depot Hack. The Hack Body came from a place in New York.It is possible that you might see my Hack in my profile. They are a lot of fun and --------------- work sometimes. I love every minute of it. The guy whom mentioned Steve Jelf said it in a nut shell.
The most important book is the "MODEL T FORD SERVICE MANUAL. It is (my copy) black and has a ton of info. I have three copies, one here in front of me , one in the shop and a spare just to have it.
Get one from Lang's Old Car Parts and read it from front to back and back to front. Great reading and in simple terms for the beginner or some will say the "NEWBIE"
Again welcome and have fun and make it safe to drive.
Welcome to the asylum.... I say that because there must be something a little nuts about feeling the need to lavish such care and attention on a century old car...
I have really enjoyed working on my Model T but the greatest pleasure has been all the wonderful people I've met as the result of T ownership. Find an active club and get involved...you'll love it!
Don't rush things. You will learn as you own this car. 1922 is a transitional model in many ways. Learn what you can, but don't get discouraged. I've been at it for way over 50 years, and there are times I get really pissed off. Just hang in there. It always works out.
Welcome from Rochester, New York John. If you ever come this way look me up ... will give you a private tour of the George Eastman Museum .. and a ride in my T.
Welcome to the obsession!
Welcome John from a fellow Ohioan!
This forum has a great group of folks that are ready to help answer any questions you may have. Some really great pictures & discussions that deal with a variety of topics (mostly T related but some off topic).While some discussions may get a bit "robust" there is NOT a lot of drama here anymore.
I am sure you will enjoy being here.
God Bless & Merry Christmas
Bill's Auto Works
Welcome from another worthless nut (buckeye) .
Welcome to the T experience! The people are great and have info on about any topic you can bring up. This bunch has helped this rookie that knew nothing about a T. Rebuilt rear axle,generator,starter fuel system,installed new wood in top sockets,new top covering, ect... I have no clubs in my local area. This forum helps me keep my T on the road and in use. You are going to need space for more T's! Drive it and enjoy it. I have found them to be very dependable as long as you do maintainance as you should.
John, like Dave and Jim said, good to have another Buckeye join the affliction! You're barely an hour from me, PM me if you want and we can exchange cell numbers, always glad to lend a hand if I can. Or just BS!! LOL
I bought my first one a couple years ago, but bought one that I liked the looks of, but needed pretty much everything mechanical. That part, I did on purpose because I wanted to be competent about how the @@#$^@!! thing works.
I should have it on the road in early 2019.
If you want the learnings from a Model T novice, feel free to drop me a line. I'm happy to pass on anything I've learned.
Here are some pics of my "new" car.
Looks great, enjoy it!
Great looking car!
Advice that will save you large sums of money, time and frustration:
1. Buy the Model T bible - P/N T-1 at most vendors
2. Never remove the starter until the bendix is removed (it will not clear the mag ring and you will damage the mag if you attempt to remove everything as a single assembly)
3. Never touch the mag post (on top of the transmission) with any kind of battery voltage (either directly or through inadvertant mix-up at the terminal block). Doing so will nearly always demagnetize the magnets on the flywheel and render the magneto useless.
Numbers 2 and 3 are not obvious and have led many new owners to grief
Everything else will eventually begin to look obvious and you can figure out.
Great looking car and welcome to the fraternity
I have an extra copy of the MTFCA engine book, yours for free. Message me if you would like me to send it to you.
A beautiful car. Hope it runs as good as it looks.
I would ask the previous owner about this. If he says it hasn't been done, or doesn't know, it would be a good winter project that might save you some grief later.
I found out that the previous owner had the motor, tranny and rear end completely rebuilt. The car also has a new top installed. The motor has a new crank, pistons, valves, Magnito basically all the internals have been replaced. The rebuilder just emailed me tonight and shared the invoice for the rear end rebuild with me. Not sure how a T is supposed to run but after a little carb adjustment she idles down completly and seems to purr like a kitten. The most impressive part was that it put up with me trying to learn to drive it yesterday. Actually I don’t think I did too bad for my first drive. The only thing that caught me by surprise was the oversteer while backing it up. I learned that you really have to hang on to the wheel so it doesn’t get away from you. Maybe the power steering is broke. I’ll put it on the winter project list with the heater and air conditioning.
John, your experience driving backwards is not unique. A model T has 5 degrees of caster in the front axle so it steers well going down the road. Anything less then 5 degrees makes the squirreling a bit more disconcerting. A little more than 5 degrees makes it steer even better, but at a cost. Reversing becomes much more sensitive.
When you get further into the car, you may find it is set up with a bit more than 5 degrees. It's no big deal as long as you are aware of it. Just keep on with the learning.
Allan from down under.
I have a few extra original copies of the 1921 service manual if you want/need one. I’m also a newbie to this hobby as of this past July and the previous owner. of my car was a serious manual/book collector and they all came with the car. I have just about everything you can imagine that was written about these cars, including a copy of Floyd Clymers 1954 historical motor scrapbook showing most of the aftermarket parts for the T through the yrs.
Send me your address and I’ll drop it in the mail.
BTW, head to Walmart right now and buy one of those big oil drip pans for $12.00. I’ve given up trying to stop all the leaks on my ‘21, but I have reduced them by 50%.
My favorite T joke which you’ll get lots of mileage from is ”What’s the difference between a Model T and a rattlesnake?”
Someone else can provide the punchline, no doubt.
Hi John, Welcome from Michigan's Tip of the Mitt!
Welcome......suggest staying out of busy traffic and tight confines until you master your T. I hope it has R&M brakes.
Hey John, Nice touring. Looks like a lot of fun in your future! I live just down the road from you in Port Clinton and another T guy lives in your Town.
John, welcome!! We'll pray for you!!!
Bill, It's amazing how many T's are tucked away in barns where you least expect them. My family is from Port Clinton (years ago) and I spent most of my summers there and at my families cottage on Catawba Island. I wonder if the T guy that lives in my town is the one I see occasionally motoring by.
Hi John, You probably have seen Marlon's Green 26 Tudor. His car is parked on the left of my 26 Roadster when we were at the Luckey Fall festival this year. Mark it on your calendar for next year!
Welcome John. Nice looking car.
Bill the wife and I never miss the Lucky fest! Hey if I take the T it looks like I can get a better parking spot!
Howdy John and welcome to the most fun hobby. Good looking touring and don’t let those grinches telling you it’s a Model year ‘23 get you down...Bring your questions to this Forum. I guarantee you’ll get answers. Welcome aboard !!
Welcome to the club John and congrats on your new old car.