Aluminum timer case

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2010: Aluminum timer case
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harry Hart on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 11:28 am:

Is anyone familiar a timer which has an aluminum case? This one has no marks at all that I can find, though the inside appear to be quite similar to timers made by the American Mechanical Works of Los Angeles.

Thanks!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR. on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 11:47 am:

Ford timers from the '12 thru '15 model years used aluminum-cased timers. They were not marked Ford.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric Hylen on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 11:48 am:

Cast aluminum timers were standard from late '11 through early '15. Post a photo and we'll tell you if it looks stock or aftermarket.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric Hylen on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 11:49 am:

Mike,
You type much faster than you talk! :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harry Hart on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 02:51 pm:

I was definitely dreaming about another timer when I said that this one resembled those by American Mechanical Works of Los Angeles - NOT!

outer
the oil hole is threaded

inner

If this is indeed, a 12-15 timer, is there someone who could restore it?

Thanks!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 02:58 pm:



Sent that timer off to Frank Fenton, and have him 'andersonize' it.

He did the one on this early car for me....worked so sweet. Looks early but is new inside with flapper fixings :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric Hylen on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 05:49 pm:

I'm running the same timer on my '14. Frank does wonderful work. I love having the correct timer case, with the reliable Anderson components inside.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Gould on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 08:15 pm:

Dan, did you buy the new brass fan pulley? Its very nice. How did you set the rivets? I have a set of 1909-10 blades and want to install them on a good pulley, but am concerned about the riveting procedure.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 09:13 pm:

Richard

Spent the $ and bought that brass fan complete, its the new version with sealed ball bearing, fan already riveted.

Lang's part# 3962BBE.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By GLEN CHAFFIN on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 09:50 pm:

We make the new brass fan hubs. You rivet on the blades.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce Peterson on Friday, May 21, 2010 - 08:20 am:

If you chuck the timer in the lathe you can clean the the inside smooth and use an original roller. Works wonderful, and was supplied on millions of Model T's. In my opinion superior to the Anderson.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Gould on Friday, May 21, 2010 - 02:43 pm:

I agree. Couple Royce's suggestion with replacing a worn out rotor ball with ball bearings and you have a nice set up.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Anthonie Boer on Friday, May 21, 2010 - 03:07 pm:

Here two pictures , how I clean the inside
I also use ball bearings
200
201

Toon


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Allan Bennett on Monday, May 24, 2010 - 06:48 am:

I tried ball bearings in place of the timer roller once. Had to use two side by side to get the width.It failed for me. The outside of the ball bearing is captive in normal use. When I used it as a roller, it quickly wore the hardening off the outside of the bearing because it was not meant to be a wiping surface. Did I miss something?

Allan from down under.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Stroud on Monday, May 24, 2010 - 12:39 pm:

Allan, a friend of mine tried one set up that way a few years ago and had the same experience. Didn't last but a short time. His seemed to fail because of arcing on the outer rings. Dave


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Chantrell - Adelaide, Australia on Monday, May 24, 2010 - 06:53 pm:

Ours was copied straight from one of the accessory books. We used a very large race only about 1/4" wide and about the 1/8" smaller than the commutator diamter so it rolled around inside a standard Ford commutator. We modified the carrier so it was lined up with the timer segments. The outside edge becomes matt grey where it arcs. I measured the OD with a micrometer and found it was only surface colouring and has lost about .0005". We had 2 cars running on them for 10 years plus. Oh, the best thing was lubriucation was a drop or two of sewing machine oil for the bearing race when you remember. Drove from Adelaide to Parkes and back about 1,500 odd miles with no issues.

Commutators are like bands, each to their own. Dave C.


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