Replacing 21" wooden wheels with wire wheels...what's needed?

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Constantine in Melbourne, Australia on Saturday, June 19, 2010 - 11:42 am:

To replace 21" demountable wooden wheels on a small drum 1925 car with 21" wire wheels from a 1926-7, do you need differnet hubs or anything else?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson on Saturday, June 19, 2010 - 11:56 am:

Yes, the wire wheel hubs are special with 5 bolts, while the wood hubs has six bolts. A small drum can be redrilled for the 5 bolt pattern and fit to a wire wheel rear hub. The original rear hubs can also be redrilled for wire wheel hub bolts. Redrilling the wood front hubs isn't recommended, they are not strong enough and hasn't got the right shape to support a wire wheel properly. New wire wheel hubs are available, but (cheaper) original ones can still be found occasionally.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George House on Saturday, June 19, 2010 - 02:37 pm:

But good wire wheel hubs seem, to me, to be more expensive than good wire wheels. You'll also need hub dust covers for the front. You might be able to find these at tractor supply houses. I think new dust covers from our Model T suppliers are around $9.50 each. You'll be able to use wood wheel inner and outer bearings, races and seals but also need wire wheel hubcaps.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Barrett on Saturday, June 19, 2010 - 05:51 pm:

Remember that the wire wheel rear hubs fit the large drum rear end. If you have small drums you will need to change the housings. You can put them on a small drum rear end but it will require modifications, involving a spacer plate, to the rear hubs.
Erik


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kenny Edmondson on Saturday, June 19, 2010 - 08:20 pm:

You don't need to change housings. You can remove the studs and large drums and redrill small drums and reinstall them. Spot weld the studs to the drums and re-crimp the studs through the hub.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Warwick Grant Landy on Sunday, June 20, 2010 - 02:58 am:

You must have liked the picture I sent you of the wires on my sedan! My car is equipped with most of the items you have been asking about in recent posts. It has taken a few years and lots of dollars but my heavy old sedan can hold its own on most tours and is a pleasure to drive. when you are back in Aus. you are most welcome to come and check out my car. It has the RM brakes, KC Warford and a Z Head.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Barrett on Sunday, June 20, 2010 - 12:20 pm:

Kenny is correct. As I mentioned, it can be done. When I put wire wheels on my 13 speedster I did as he described except one more step was required. I had to put a spacer in between the wheel and hub about "3/4 thick. This is because the wheel center is dished and the drum and RM brakes will not fit inside it. I built my own spacers but others have used wheel adapter plates available at parts stores with some modifications.
Fordially, Erik


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Hatch on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 08:27 am:

It only takes one thing, $$$$. Dan


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