Band changing tool question how to use

Topics Last Day Last Week Tree View    Getting Started Formatting Troubleshooting Program Credits    New Messages Keyword Search Contact Moderators Edit Profile Administration
Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2010: Band changing tool question how to use
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Kriegel on Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 07:01 pm:

I have not figured out how to use the "nut retainer" shown in picture It was not able to slip over any of the band nuts and I do not see how to loosen the nuts if this tool is on

The square band tool I assume holds the ears of the band back when installing? Instructions with these tolls for us new guys would really help


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 08:07 pm:

Tribal knowledge.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By jack daron-Indy. on Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 08:44 pm:

David,they are interesting artifacts,best hung on the wall for all the good they don't do.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace on Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 10:06 pm:

The band nut and washer wrench is loaded first, nut goes in notch side in, then load the washer, lug facing the nut. Spring apart the fork to load.



The fit the wrench over the shaft, being sure to locate first the keyway on the bottom of the threaded pedal shaft so that the washer engages, then turn the knurled collar on the wrench to advance the nut on the shaft.



Open the spring fork and remove the collar wrench.



Or....do it the easy modern way, get a pack of dental floss, my favorite is mint..:-)

Lace a long length thru the nut and washer, tie off, and secure the loop to a safe location.



Then finger on the washer and nut with no fears of dropping them or worries of stuffed rags being left over in the trans for the gears to eat up....:-)



Any little tiny bits of teflon dental floss that doesn't pull clean away only help to lubricate the gears....!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 10:55 pm:

Good explanation, Dan. How do you get the floss in before removing the nut & washer in the first place?

I loosen the nut until no threads are showing past it, then slip the nut retainer over it and the washer. It's only a little awkward then to finish unscrewing the nut using the knurled knob. I've never bothered with rags.

I found the C-shaped retainer to be near worthless, even after bending its tips.

rdr


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce Peterson on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 07:02 am:

The stamped steel retainer tool is only strong enough to hold one band at a time. So you rotate the other two out of the way, start from the front installing the nuts, ending with the brake band.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 10:39 am:

Ralph

How do you get the floss in before removing the nut & washer in the first place?

Well, still working on that :-)

As you can see, the floss works when replacing those washers and nuts, and also I loop and tie off each cotter pin going in and out when adjusting the clutch screws in the clutch plate too.

When removing the washers and nuts on the pedal shafts, I too revert to a blanket of rags, a pair of clean and sticky surgeon gloves, and a little chant for good luck :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill Dugger on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 11:06 am:

Dan or Ralph:
Well I tried the band changing technique. Here is what I did. I was able to feed some heavy fishing monofilment line into the nut and washer and tie it off with a loop and slowly remove the nut and washer, oh and it works both ways, installing and removing. The trick is to have the band held where they will not snap loose, using the transmission band clamp or the tool that has the wrench on it. It worked for me, and once you get about three or four thread on the shaft either cut or break the fihing line. I saw the fishing line mentioned several years ago. I still put a lot of rags in the tranny before I start as a pre-caution, murphy's law, if it could happen it will happen. Oh and count the rags going in and taking them out!!!!hope this is good info!

bill d


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Val Soupios on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 11:19 am:

I use a carpet needle threaded with dental floss. The carpet needle is curved so it can be passed through the groove in the shaft after backing off the nut and washer until the nut is half off the shaft. I had to change the arc of the curve on the needle to make it work but it made putting the dental floss on before removal a snap!


Add a Message


This is a private posting area. Only registered users and moderators may post messages here.
Username:  
Password:

Topics Last Day Last Week Tree View    Getting Started Formatting Troubleshooting Program Credits    New Messages Keyword Search Contact Moderators Edit Profile Administration