Identify? Maybe a Model T engine and nose. St. Louis Missouri

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aaron on Monday, November 29, 2010 - 10:29 pm:

My grandpa recently passed away. He had a bunch of old cars.

There isn't much left of this one, we think it's the nose and motor from a model T. If anyone can identify please let me know.
I am west of St. Louis Missouri. I would rather it go to someone that might need parts and not the scrapper.
http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/4841/imgp3762.jpg
http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/9274/imgp3760.jpg


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dean Yoder on Monday, November 29, 2010 - 10:38 pm:

Aron,1926/1927 model t


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Kopsky on Monday, November 29, 2010 - 10:42 pm:

Yes sir, that's a Model T. 1926 or 27 vintage. Someone close may be interested but there's not a lot there. Is the engine locked up? There should be a number stamped on the engine. It will be located on the driver's side just above the water inlet to the head. If there's enough frame, there might be a number stamped on the passenger side about where the front door would be. If you get the number, someone can date the engine down to the day of assembly.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aaron on Monday, November 29, 2010 - 10:43 pm:

thanks. crazy the other guy who helped me on another forum about some Studebaker's he also had was named Milt Yoder. Any relation?

I know there's not much left, but does anyone think what's left has any use to some of you guys.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob McDaniel(Indiana Trucks)Star City In on Monday, November 29, 2010 - 10:45 pm:

Looks like whats left of a 1926 or 27 T to me but the experts will confirm this on here soon.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob McDaniel(Indiana Trucks)Star City In on Monday, November 29, 2010 - 10:47 pm:

I could use parts of it if you were not so far away so don't let the scraper's have it. Someone close by will want it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dean Yoder on Monday, November 29, 2010 - 10:52 pm:

Aron, No relation. It is always worth saving rust. May be a good block or tranny You never know until you get them apart. Has a hood over it that is good.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erich Bruckner, Vancouver, WA on Monday, November 29, 2010 - 11:02 pm:

Strange throttle linkage.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace on Monday, November 29, 2010 - 11:11 pm:

'26-'27. The serial engine number is stamped on a boss over the water inlet on the starter side of the block (drivers side)

With the modified carb control rod going across the front of the engine, maybe set up for power source, could have pulley on the end of the tranny. Or perhaps no passage hole in the block for the earlier carb rod,as it may have been a equipped with Vaporizer carb...so a later engine.

If 14,xxx,xxx or more, that block contains an "EE" crankshaft...don't let that motor go to the scrapper !!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Tomaso - Milton,WA on Monday, November 29, 2010 - 11:19 pm:

Throttle rod appears to have been part of a fan/flywheel governor arrangement. Looks to have been a stationary engine.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob from Missouri on Monday, November 29, 2010 - 11:42 pm:

Aaron, I live in Eureka, What do you want to do with it?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob from Missouri on Monday, November 29, 2010 - 11:44 pm:

What do you want for it, and where do you live?
I have a 27 and can use the parts.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aaron on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 10:20 am:

For historical purposes, I want to know information about it. I want to know if there's anything unique or rare about it compared to any other model T engine. Being the last year or two I assume it has the potential to have some of the most 'modern' advancements.
At that point I want it to go to a good home of someone that can use it or parts of it.
What I don't want is for it to be scrapped if it's got useful parts.
Also preferably don't want it to go to someone that wants it just in case someday they need it but then it ends up just sitting doing nothing, because it's already doing that.
Bob you're close by if you want to come look at it let me know.
Also I know there's some local clubs around here that deal in these cars. If someone is a member of one of those please pass this info on if you think any members there can use it.

Grandpa lived through the great depression and didn't believe in wasting anything so I'm trying to pay it forward. A donation in his memory would be welcome, but you guys are the experts so I'll trust you to tell me if it's worth anything


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Christopher Lang - Brentwood Bay BC on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 11:27 am:

Aaron, you can read some neat information about the 1926 Model T here, on the MTFCA website.

http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/1926.htm

Here is some information on the 1927.

http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/1927.htm


Here is a link to the MTFCA encyclopedia, where the above came from.

http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/intro.htm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Adam Doleshal on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 11:42 am:

It would be a cool item for someone to scoop up and haul over to the T museum in Indiana. It would make a great display showing the condition that some of this stuff is in before restoration. Or for that matter, where used parts are coming from these days.

Personally, I've found lots of good internal parts in engines that look like that, but it IS GAMBLING...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harry A. Daw on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 11:45 am:

Aaron, I live in Troy, Missouri but don't have a need for your engine. There is a club in St. Louis, a small one in Warrenton, and one in Fulton so you should be able to find someone interested without to much trouble.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harry A. Daw on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 06:20 pm:

Aaron go to a new thread entitled "Will 26-27 peddles clear 23-24 firewall". Click on the name of the person who put the thread on--something about cats breath. He has a picture of a T engine on his profile that makes your's look really really good!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steven Thum - Webster Groves, Mo. on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 07:53 pm:

Aaron

I live in Webster Groves and am interested in your engine. I am looking to build a Model T hearse and that looks like a good starting point. Please contact me off line.

Steven


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aaron on Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 09:36 pm:

Bob and his friend came and looked at it today.
Jan 1926 motor is what they said from the serial.
Seems the motor was probably used to turn a saw or something and this frame is mounted sideways on top of another T frame.
So axles might even be buried under the ground as there's leaf springs attached going in to the dirt.
Don't know but going to require a little more work to get it out. The big tree probably grew around the second frame.
Anyway some more pics in the mean time.
http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/8346/imgp4701.jpg
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/8670/imgp4703x.jpg
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/5189/imgp4706.jpg
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6389/imgp4707.jpg
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/9657/imgp4708.jpg
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5884/imgp4709w.jpg


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Stroud on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 01:51 am:

That push fan is unique. I haven't seen one like that. Dave


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Les Von Nordheim on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 02:01 am:

Aaron,
In your pictures, img406, is the carb. a straight thru NH?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aaron on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 05:48 pm:

You'd have to ask Bob at this point. Hopefully he calls me someday and tells me he was able to salvage something off of it and gives me a ride in his 27.
Here's the last pics I'll post of it.

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/1527/imgp4722b.jpg
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6963/imgp4723d.jpg
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/2479/imgp4724e.jpg
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7985/imgp4725.jpg
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/9042/imgp4727q.jpg
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/3924/imgp4728.jpg
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/1007/imgp4729.jpg

Axle and frame still in the ground. Tree roots grown around it.
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/4103/imgp4733.jpg


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Stroud on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 05:55 pm:

That's an interesting rear spring, someone should get that too. Looks like it could be retrieved fairly easily. Thanks for the pictures Aaron. Dave


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob from Missouri on Sunday, December 12, 2010 - 12:49 am:

David, I plan on going back for the rear and front springs and axles when the weather gets a little better, and its not as easy as it looks. Aarons dad tried to lift them out of the ground with the front loader on his JD tractor. They are over grown with tree roots. Need to cut them out with ax and hatchet.
Bob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Stroud on Sunday, December 12, 2010 - 12:59 am:

Bob, glad you are going to retrieve the rest. I was thinking that the rear spring could be unbolted and removed if the rest was too hard to dig out. If it was me, I'd do whatever I could to get it all dug out too. Dave


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob from Missouri on Sunday, December 12, 2010 - 01:03 am:

Weather got to bad to keep working on it today,going to wait for better weather. The front springs are there also.


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