For years I've had a complete set of bumpers for a 26-7. They didn't come with the car, the previous owner was moving out of state and sold them to me. How do I figure out if they should go on my roadster or my wife's Fordor? Is there a simple reference measurement that I can make on the rear brackets to figure out what car they should go on?
There should already be holes in the frame.
Your wife's Fordor gets the bumper unless you want to give up family peace.
Tom there are two different lengths, years ago I did not know this so we purchased a set from a friend who found them at Hershy, when we finished the 26-7 touring car, we had two spring out the bumper to clear the spare tire, later I sold the car I assume its still that away. Since several years ago I went to an auction in Ill. I purchased two NOS sets one longer then the other, fixin to use them on two cars here Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Tom, and Son and all others on this site
The shorter set must be for touring cars and sedans, because the shorter length will not extend the bumper far enough out to allow for a spare tire on a roadster or coupe. Years ago, I found this out the hard way, buying the right and left bracket at different times from different people. Man, was I in for a shock when I went to mount the bars.
Here are a few pictures of the original bumpers on my '26 Fordor and where they attach. Jim Patrick
Those might be "original" to your car, Jim but those aren't Ford bumpers - they're some aftermarket accessory.
Thanks everyone for the comments and photos. I'll have to do some measuring over the holidays. Right now my workshop is in turmoil with my roadster body sitting in a trailer.
For two weekends, my wife was snowed in at her job on the west side of the state and I was able to get a jump on what I thought was my roadster restoration.
She came home last weekend and spotted all the shiny '26 parts and immediately informed me they must be for her Fordor which has basically been untouched since '93 and is coincidently not in our shop. So Jack may be correct unless I prove the back bumper sticks out too far for her sedan.
Jim, the bumpers I have are similar but mount differently to the frame. I'll try to snap some photos of what I have in the next couple of days.
From what I see and what I have had and still have hanging on the wall in storage, I would probably concur that Jim's are probably aftermarket of the era and there are reports of 'dealer installed'...but they are also the most predominant 'model' that were out there!
What I have always tried to determine and find out is just WHAT are the differences between Ford supplied and whoever these are made by! I say so as most of the aftermarket versions required a little bit of 'fit-up' to make work, yet this one model, as shown by Jim and what I have hanging on the wall, does not require anything special...the front uses a standard tie up, and the rear likewise, no rework required as in others makes of bumpers.
I have also looked closely at actual cars claiming to have the 'factory' brackets and can find no differences in mounting! Either Ford 'Chinese copied' what was the prevalent aftermarket model, or as I suspect for most of the upgraded goodies on the later improved cars, Ford simply 'bought and resold' what the prevailing aftermarket stuff was.
Care to elaborate on what the differences are other than bar mounting clips and medallions? I've been trying to figure out differences, if any, for going on 35 years!
The mounting/attaching brackets are curved or concaved on original '26-'27 genuine Ford bumpers. Easy to identify. I'll try and post a photo later of original brackets.
Here is a picture of my rear bumper mount on my 26 coupe.
My rear bars are concave and mount exactly the way you show.
This afternoon, I set the Fordor's spare carrier under the frame's rear crossmember and supported it with a jackstand. I am measuring approximately eight inches from the rubber of the spare tire at six o'clock to the back edge of the bright bumper bar. The spare is mounted on a wire wheel if that makes a difference. I am thinking these might be roadster-coupe bars if that eight inches is excessive.
I took some photos and will post them tonite when I get home from my garage.
Here are the photos. I'd appreciate opinions as to whether these are sedan-touring or coupe-roadster bumper arms. With a Fordor tire mount, I meausure eight inches to the bumper bars.
That distance from the tire seems about right....
these are repop rear bumper arms on Dixie, got from Lang's, for the full length bars, fit was fine, bolted just like originals. I used original bars, but powder coated black.
Nice to have bumpers when doing the 'balloon' pop blindfolded at T Rodeos.....keeps from causing too much damage
The original Ford supplied 26-27 bumper brackets were indeed concave in sectional design. I haven't seen any, but I understand the repop brackets are likewise. Also, the original Ford bumper clamps did not have edges that clamped and supported the bumpers, nor were they emblossed with diamonds or any design. They were just flat, oval shaped pieces of metal with a hole in the middle for the bumper bolt. On the back side, they had a cast in spacer to separate the bars. One feature of the longer brackets is that although incorrect for judging on some body styles, they will fit all body styles, and that can't be said of the shorter ones. The bumper bars were not tied together with a bolt at each end as Model A bumpers were. Since the first set that I spoke of in my above post, I have owned at least four sets of fronts and at least three sets of rears and they bolted up to predrilled holes in my 26 and 27 frames perfectly with only shimming with washers or flat bushings to make the level .