Easy Bearing Race Removal

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2011: Easy Bearing Race Removal
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kenny Edmondson, Indy on Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 07:42 pm:

I figured I'd let everyone in on a way to easily remove the small outer wheel bearing races on the pre 26/27 hubs. The jaws in the current set up won't fit in the later hubs.

I've been using this procedure for awhile. This is a cheap 2 jaw puller I got from Harbor Freight. I put notches in the center cone for the puller jaws to ride into and turned the jaws outward.


Puller installed. Run the cone down to spread the jaws to lock the assembly behind the race in the slots.

I use a brass drift against the puller jaws on the inside and tap the assembly out of the hub. Since the race is being pulled from both sides they've always come out easy.

Race removed


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Paul Mikeska, Denver CO on Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 08:05 pm:

Kenny,

Thanks for posting that. What a neet idea!

Paul


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Holderman on Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 08:42 pm:

I have always just ran a bead of electric weld around the face of the race. They seem to come out pretty easy after just a little tapping on the weld from the backside with a punch. I will try the gear puller idea next time...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Gruber, Spanaway, Wa on Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 08:46 pm:

Nice looking big old vise.
I wonder if you can even buy one like that nowadays.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kenny Edmondson, Indy on Friday, March 04, 2011 - 05:56 am:

Bob, That vice is huge. I was told to throw it away at a place I worked once and did... I threw it in the back of my pickup truck. I doubt that a vise like that could be bought anywhere especially one U.S. made. Just the handle alone probably weighs 10 lbs.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andrew K. Deckman on Friday, March 04, 2011 - 05:02 pm:

This is what Im talking about. Thanks for the post.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce Peterson on Friday, March 04, 2011 - 05:06 pm:

I use my little Lincoln 100 MIG welder. Just support the hub with the race down. Start to run a bead on the race and it falls on the floor.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kenny Edmondson, Indy on Friday, March 04, 2011 - 09:21 pm:

That's wonderful Royce. This one wasn't about you. It directed for guys that don't want mess with a welder or maybe don't have a welder. I could have the race out in the amount of time it takes to get all welding stuff out. No debate intended on which way is the best.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Tomaso - Milton,WA on Friday, March 04, 2011 - 09:31 pm:

Very practical application Kenny - good thinking !


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jeff rey L. Vietzke on Friday, March 04, 2011 - 09:31 pm:

I just use a drift and a mammer. Takes about a minute.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jeff rey L. Vietzke on Friday, March 04, 2011 - 09:32 pm:

Mammer??? I guess a HAMMER is a better choice!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Paul Mikeska, Denver CO on Friday, March 04, 2011 - 09:52 pm:

I do not claim to be to be the smartest member of the forum and do not enjoy welding things upside down. The slag and molten metal fall down your shirt and/or under your hood and are fairly uncomfortable. I learned to weld the bead on the race with the hub facing up, and then turned the hub over to watch the race fall out. Just my .02

Paul


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce Peterson on Saturday, March 05, 2011 - 09:50 am:

Paul,

This isn't welding things upside down. You just strike an arc and it's out of there in a second. Ridiculously easy, who ever thought of doing it is the smart one, not me. I just copy success.

Obviously before you strike an arc you should be wearing a welding mask (I love my $99 Harbor Freight auto dimming helmet) and leather welding gloves.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By R.V. Anderson on Saturday, March 05, 2011 - 09:58 am:

A huge vice gets guys into trouble. A huge vise makes the job easy. 8<)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Carnegie on Saturday, March 05, 2011 - 12:14 pm:

Removing a race with a welder works well in many situations, but I wouldn't do it on a T outer hub bearing. When you put the bead on, the race tries to expand. If it is contained, it can't expand outwardly, so it expands towards the middle. When it cools, it falls out. The metal is so thin on a T hub that when the race tries to expand it stretches the hub and makes the new bearing fit loose.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Thode on Saturday, March 05, 2011 - 12:35 pm:

I agree with Tom. When you start welding on a bearing something has to give because of the expansion. If the hub that contains the race is thin/weak compared to the race then the hub will give. It works well because the bearing will fall out or come out easily but not really what you wanted to do because the hub is now over-sized.
Jim


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