I thought I would post this E/bay link for all the Closed car owners who are looking for the regulator cranks for your 23-24 cars. These cranks are a hard item to find in good condition. I just happened to notice it while I was looking through the e/bay listings. There is only one up for auction, but I see he has 10 available. Hope it can help someone. Regards, John
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1923-1924-1925-Ford-Model-T-brass-window-crank-An tique-/230616629202?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35b1d27fd2#h t_500wt_956
Does anyone know if those are correct for a '25 coupe? Thanks. Dave
Hello David, Here are two previous Forum Threads that will answer your question. You would be familiar with one of the threads. Regards, John
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/80257/107497.html?1253974017
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/80257/96950.html?1246413027
These are the 1923-1924 Cranks
1925-1927 Cranks
Thanks John, I had forgotten about those threads. Dave
Your welcome Dave. Best regards, John
Not all 25 T closed cars had the later style window cranks. I have a very late 24 Coupe that in reality is a 25. It has an Oct engine serial number which makes it 25. Early 25 closed cars that had the wooden door frames usually had the center earlier style window cranks in the top picture. I had a later 25 wood frame 4 dr. sedan that also had the center screw earlier cranks.
It seems that the cars with the metal door frames used the later style window riser which used the later style side screw cranks. These were the transition years and there was no clear cut distinction between which year is which. MHO
Hello John,
Yes , I think you are correct. As you say, and from what I have seen on the Forum here, that change came with the all steel doors.
I think Dave S. would be able to clarify that as well. I apologize if I have given anyone the incorrect information. Regards, John
According to the documentation, the change from the handle with the center screw to the later style happened on August 25, 1924. The change to the steel doors happened in early October 1924. So technically the steel doors only used the later handles while the wooden doors used the earlier handle except for a 1 month time when they used the later style. That said, there is no record of exactly when these changes actually happened on the production floor, or if they all happened at the branch plants at the same time. During this transition period, anything is possible.
One more piece to this is that the steel doors used the "F" style regulator (for the most part) and at least the one I have photos of does not have the hole for the center screw. So this matches the documentation that the steel doors used the later style handle. I think the later handle will fit on the earlier regulators so it is possible to have the wood door with the later handle.
Dave S.
Hello Dave, I thought if you saw this thread that you would be able to offer a very good explanation. Those earlier cranks on e/bay should be reasonably good buying at that price if they are as good as they look. I have not seen to many offered for sale. I had a look at the Store inventory that the seller has to offer. It seems as though he deals in that type of item. Regards, John