OT - "Energy Now"

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks_-_Surf_City on Saturday, November 05, 2011 - 06:52 pm:

I warned you: not much T content here, but it's important, and I'm angry.
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"Energy Now" is a weekly 30 minute program that has been on Bloomberg tv a year now; main sponsor Chesapeake Energy, but editorially independent, they say.

This week was primarily about spent nuke fuel rod storage. Yucca Mountain is too hot, at least politically. Carlsbad, NM, has WIPP, a test/demonstration facility that stores nuke waste in salt half a mile underground, with plenty of room for all our thousands of tons of rods now in wet storage at over 100 nuke plants across the US. The dry salt encroaches and envelops the canisters at the rate of 3 inches a year. The only drawback would be difficult retrieval for possible processing in the future. The NIMBYs are ok with it, they said. How about that, Billy?

The mealy-mouthed head of the NRC says they haven't studied WIPP enough to comment on it! WTF are they doing? WIPP has been in business a number of years. Our problems are indeed more policital than technical.

The last part today was about Commie China's big appetite for energy. They predict over the next 25 years our demand for transportation energy will increase just 14%, while CC demand will increase 250%.

Sure enough, they've bought into the Canada tar sands and the Keystone XL pipeline that will cross the US from Alberta to the port of Houston. The pipeline will be just a risky, unprofitable US conduit for energy to the Commies. The story we've been fed from the MainStream Media about shipping the tar to under-used refineries in Houston is just BS.

Canada should be refining its own tar sands.

rdr


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Billy Key in NM on Saturday, November 05, 2011 - 08:14 pm:

I was reading this morning that if the construction of the pipeline should be stopped in the U.S., (and who knows, it might happen) the line would just be rerouted in Les's area in Canada and shipped to China from there.

Re: WIPP. Being a Southeast New Mexican, I have watched WIPP from its beginning. In 1999 it received its first shipment. WIPP receives waste from all over the U.S. and has been fought tooth and nail all the way by small communities, cities and groups. After who knows how many federal $$$$s for completion of the rooms, facility and startup, it then took years and years of wrangling to ever get a load approved. On August the 25th, the 10,000th shipment of radioactive waste was received there. The way I understand it, they agreed to "study and monitor" the project 35 years and then determine if it was a feasible plan.

I'm with you Ralph. That area is as geologically sound as probably any other place in the world and it would certainly seem the waste is far safer there than sitting around on top of the ground in storage, possibly awaiting some kind of natural or man made disaster to happen.

I've noticed this. WIPP trucks drive through the ranch daily and they certainly haven't kept me awake nor have I seen any cows glowing in the dark.

As to wind energy. The wind blew here today 60 mph. and since we have been running a contest with Texas over who is the driest, it moved a lot of dirt. There was no way of working on the T in the shop due the noise. Pretty bad day.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks_-_Surf_City on Saturday, November 05, 2011 - 10:38 pm:

They will never run the pipeline across the Rockies if it's cheaper to run it through the US. About 2/3 of the US pipeline exists already, so the Keystone XL part would be comparatively cheap. Makes you wonder what's moving now in the existing pipeline, and how that will be re-routed or hauled. That could increase the cost of US fuels. The Alberta to Texas pipeline looks like a total loser for the US.

Besides that, a serious leak could pollute the Ogallala Aquifer that provides water to a lot of US farmland.

I had never heard of WIPP until today, so can't comment on its virtues; just that the slimy head of the NRC wouldn't answer questions about it.

The wind doesn't blow in New Mexico, Billy, it sucks. . . . Go with the flow and you end up in Texas.

rdr


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