I'd like to know how many aftermarket timers were available way back when!
Anderson, new day, apco, apperson, tiger, bull dog.
I'm sure there are lots more! what have you got sitting on the shelf?
Here's a few I collected. I know there were a lot more than this.
Nice collection! Here's another vintage timer but with modern innards:
The E-Timer Electronic Ignition. FYI, There's one on E-Bay right now just in time for the holidays.
Hey Mike, If I run this timer do I still have to put a dab of grease somewhere or is just a shot of some special timer oil in the oil hole OK?
Gene, there are no mechanical contacts within the E-Timer itself so the oil hole is strictly for appearance only.
Folks with regular drivers who put a lot of miles on their car concerned about ware can apply a light coat of grease on just the very edge of the outer timer housing where it contacts the engine timer cover to prevent ware and ease timer adjustment.
Back to the thread, I have about 25 different ones and I'm sure there were dozens and dozens more. A guy named Doc Buie in Vancouver, BC has a couple hundred in his collection.
A couple hundred???? I had no idea there were that many different companies making them! I figured maybe 20!
Mike, Maybe this discussion should be on a new thread?
If this new Vintage timer doesn't have any mechanical parts to wear out and need continous attention that would be an amazing breakthru for many of us that run coils and timers?
I had no idea and am amazed at how many timers were available for the T in the day. I guess many people must have had problems and wanted something better.
I'm interested in the new timer also, but I started this thread to learn more about the old ones.
What say you Mike? start a thread and tell us more!
There were four or five patented in 1921, all close together with the dates. The Crystal Timer still being advertised is one of those. This is another new old stock with the box that was made in Maryland.
There are plenty of discussions about the E-Timer in previous threads here on the Forum.
Somewhere back a few years there was a thread about timers that had a bunch of pictures. I posted about 25 of mine. Those are part of the pictures I lost with my computer crash last month. I'll take a bunch of pics one of these days and post them. Tom or Rick Carnegie also had a bunch posted if I remember right. Tom, I think, did some tests as to which ones worked best. There are only a few basic designs; those with a roller, those with a brush, those with a set of points. Just about the only ways to make contact. It is the variations in those three basic designs that make them interesting.
Incidentally, those Spad timers work great and must have been very popular as they are easy to find, even NOS. The problem with them was that they didn't require oil but also were not very tolerant of it. They would get slick inside and start to miss.
My personal favorite is the Turner, with the tube for the wires. I bought one off ebay last year that was supposed to be NOS in the box, it was well used and just thrown in the shipping box with virtually no padding and it pretty much ruined the box. I've never seen another box for them, I like the boxes about as well as the timers so I was pretty disappointed.
There used to be an ad showing a road leading to a factory with words that said, "Build a better timer and the Fords will build a path to your door." Wish I had a copy of that.
Seems like someone posted pics of one that had a magnet on the cam that closed the 4 contacts and therefore no rolling or wiping motion. Am I just dreaming that?
Here is a 2006 thread with a bunch of Stan'e timer photos:
Alot of these timers seem to be just a variation of the design of the spring loaded arm. I'm surprised patents were granted for some of them their so alike. Then there's that Fansteel timer. Nothing like complicating a design that works to improve it. If one spring loaded arm is good 3 more should be outstanding. Reminds me of the JC Whitney ads from years back: improves mileage! Improves performance! Never fill you fuel tank again!
Erich.......is that the Rube Goldberg Timer?.......
Ha, Craig, it sure is. Looks like a "better" mouse trap. So many wheels, just needs a few cogs.
Don't forget this one.....
This one is almost as bad...
and one more...
Hey Erich and Mike
Reading the Motor Age sales ad for the Master timer I couldn't think how it more accurately describes the new E Timer Mike Kossor has built. It easy to see the many points of wear even on this one.
Think of the E on a Ford Car
Think what it will mean to you... Maybe a new sales add for you Mike?
Does anyone have a video or pic of a Crystal running? I'd like to see what the visible spark looks like