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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Randall Strickland on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 05:52 pm:

This tester does not have a place to hook spark plug,do I need to have plug connected to check coil,Thanks Randall


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By James A. Golden on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 05:56 pm:

Randall, is that something you made or a genuine antique?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ted Dumas on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 06:09 pm:

I think somewhere on this machine you should have a spark gap. The lead to the left terminal is the hot lead. My guess is that you should see a spark between the bronze finger on the crank and the flat segmented angular surface. You want only one spark, not a double and about 1.2 amps. You may to contact Ron Patterson, he has done a lot of HCCT restorations and bundles of coil rebuilds.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Davis-SE Georgia on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 07:35 pm:

I think you'll find that the wire going to the bottom of the coil (On the right in the photo) is your 'hot' wire. The one on the left is likely grounded to the frame. The one in the middle is the high voltage wire. I agree that the spark would be observed between the 'finger' on the crank and the ring behind it. The gap between the two should be 1/4". 1.3 amps is what most folks set them to. Look for 16 sparks around the ring. Make sure there are no missing sparks or double sparks. Doubles will be about 3/16" apart or so.

Neat tester. Never seen one like that.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ron Patterson-Nicholasville, Kentucky on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 07:38 pm:

Randall
A very unique machine. In twenty five years of collecting and restoring HCCT's I have never seen another like it.
Perhaps I am wrong, but it does not appear to be home made and purpose built. Are there any markings anywhere on it that might indicate a maker or part number?
I cannot see where the coil high tension is connected. I suspect it is connected to the ring around the main shaft. There is a pointer off the lower part of the shaft/handle that moves around the ring as the handle is turned. I suspect this is the spark gap allowing you to see the 16 sparks around the perimeter of the ring?
If that is so simply clean the ring and spark pointer with a small wire brush and if you have a good coil it should work.
Let me know if you need help. I am a sucker for a sick HCCT.
Ron the Coilman


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Thode Chehalis Washington on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 08:44 pm:

Pretty neat. I can see a spark pointer at about 7:00 o'clock and the ring has 16 notches right on the face. It should work as it sets.

Jim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ron Patterson-Nicholasville, Kentucky on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 08:47 pm:

Randall
I noticed one more thing about your HCCT.
It has a true RMS iron vane meter which means whoever came up with the design knew what they were doing. This buttress' my theory it is not home made.
Ron the Coilman


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erich Bruckner, Vancouver, WA on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 09:01 pm:

It does look like a blacksmith made it. Did a great job, but I vote individual made.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Randall Strickland on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 09:17 pm:

I don't think it is home made the bends would be hard to do and do it right,it works the way it is and shows sparks,just no where for plug,Ron I'll look closer tomorrow for a name or no. This might be from JC whitney LOL!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Thode Chehalis Washington on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 09:25 pm:

Randall,
You could make some little brackets that attach to the two posts on the side of the coil using the existing nuts. Then just lay a spark plug between the two posts.

It would be easy to do, easy to reverse and would not alter the original tester.

Jim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ron Patterson-Nicholasville, Kentucky on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 09:26 pm:

Randall
Do not agonize over the absence of a place for a spark plug. That test is a joke because it doesn't test the plug under compression.
I also notice the meter scale has no marking for a magneto test. I think it is basic coil tester and no more.
Test coils and have fun.
If you rotate the spark pointer about 80 degrees the sparks will be easier to view.
Ron the Coilman


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Randall Strickland on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 10:50 pm:

Thanks Ron,it has a Jewell meter and the only marking is stamped on back of flywheel.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Randall Strickland on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 10:55 pm:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ted Dumas on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 11:01 pm:

Hal,

Thanks for the correction on connections. My thinking, or lack thereof, was all screwed up.

Ted


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael Deichmann, Blistrup, Denmark on Friday, May 04, 2012 - 01:39 am:

Pre 19 type flywheel...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Stroud on Friday, May 04, 2012 - 04:54 pm:

That frame sure looks like it was made by a blacksmith to me. Notice all of the hammer marks and the two different curves in the main upright pieces, among other hammer marks in other parts. Just a thought. Dave


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Cascisa - Poulsbo, Washington on Friday, May 04, 2012 - 06:50 pm:

The base looks like a pressed steel brake drum. My dollar is bet on "Homemade" ... and nicely done at that. :-)

Did anyone else notice the '57 Chev, the one lung engine and the Re-Babbitt mold for the fourth main. Nice shop Randall !!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Thode Chehalis Washington on Friday, May 04, 2012 - 11:41 pm:

Bob,
I agree, I think it is home made. Lot of nice forged steel work or maybe some parts borrowed from old farm implements.

Wonder where the pointer came from. Looks nice but don't think it would function well because the sparks/double sparks would be hidden behind the pointer most of the time.

Jim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Randall Strickland on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 09:51 pm:

There's is no hammer mark's anywhere on it and the two bends are alike,it's the angle I was standing when I took the picture makes an optical -----,sorry Frank can't speel that word!LOL


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