FREE help for bad spellers

Topics Last Day Last Week Tree View    Getting Started Formatting Troubleshooting Program Credits    New Messages Keyword Search Contact Moderators Edit Profile Administration
Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2012: FREE help for bad spellers
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Frank Harris from Long Beach & Big Bear on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 01:40 pm:

As a retired College Professor and Dean, I just hate to read the misspelling on this web site. Some of it is from tired old arthritic fingers and some of it is by just not knowing how to spell. I have discovered a wonderful free word processing and spell check program that can be downloaded off of the internet and is an almost exact copy of Microsoft Word.

You get on the internet and ask for Open Office and down load it for free. It is worth $150. If your computer will not download and install the program you will need to download JAVA first and then download Open Office.

You open up the program and write your message there. It will correct your spelling as you go. When you are done you select CUT and PASTE it into the ADD A MESSAGE BOX on the Model T Forum and send it. People will enjoy the excellent quality of your post and it will make all of your e-mail message absolutely correct and people will think you are smart and well educated. The web site has a good spell check running at this time but the proper names are called out and you don;t know if you spelled those words correctly. This program assures that you spelled the words correctly before you send them even though this site highlites the proper names as wrong.

I just down loaded it and it works very well for word processing and e-mails, and it was free and now my e-mails will nknott have inkerrekt sspellllingso and I will know that words like Ruckstell and Frontenac are actually spelled korrektlie.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 01:49 pm:

I just hate it when someone writes a compound word such as "download" as two separate words.

(Just kidding, Frank..... sort of.....) :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John McGinnis in San Jose area, CA. on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 01:52 pm:

Well, spelling is one thing and syntax, punctuation, grammar are another. Their, there, they're, etc. for example are spelled correctly, but not used correctly.
Why don't you check your own writing and find that don;t ain't correct?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Frank Harris from Long Beach & Big Bear on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 01:54 pm:

I wrote it both ways. At the end I was being deliberate so it could be easily understood. downloaded and down loaded are not caught by any spell checker but may be caught by some grammar checkers.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Frank Harris from Long Beach & Big Bear on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 02:09 pm:

john, sometimes I put things inn there too make folks reed carefullie. I was just offering a free $150 spell checker for the kneedie. And not making fun ;~)

I have severe arthritis and my fingers drag. A lot of the time and I accidentally type the letter (A) at the beginning of words and sometimes my fingers stutter and I get multiple strokes. At other times I accidentally hit the cap or indent key. At other times I hit between two keys and the computer selects one of them. If I don't check everything carefully I send incorrect information. Old age is hell but we keep trying.

Perhaps others with arthritis will download this wonderful free word processing program and it will assist them with their personal e-mails. It is best used by us when using proper names rejected by this web sites spell checker.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mike peterson on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 02:10 pm:

holy smokes , of all the petty things to complain about and its not even about modle Tea's


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By george house on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 02:25 pm:

Frank,
Your admonition definitely did not loose my attention. Too many spellers have been too foot-lose on this site.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aaron Griffey, Hayward Ca. on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 02:48 pm:

George!!! You're the second person to use the correct too on this site in 12 years!
I see to many, to soon, to small, to old, etc.
I have even read that some people have to rear wheels on their model T.
Their, there and they're are the most often words used incorrectly.
you and you're too. I read that if your going or your invited quite often.
Often times it's a mistake that the writer knows but doesn't read the post before posting.
The one that gets me is that stupid mark some insist on putting before every S.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Charlie B actually in Toms River N.J. on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 02:54 pm:

This copies older than some of you. Nuff said.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aaron Griffey, Hayward Ca. on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 02:55 pm:

Your and you're is what I was hoping would come up.
I guess I should read the message before I post it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mack Cole ---- Earth on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 02:59 pm:

OH my God The spelling police.
I want to see Badges!
If missspelling a few wordsis the worst thing I do,I feel like I am doing well!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By george house on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 02:59 pm:

Yup, reckon most of us are just showing our country roots. Why; if we was more sophisticated, we'd be on a polo horse or yachting forum. But naw; . . . we're content to debate 30 W or multiviscosity, engine originally painted or not, buzz coils vs. distributors, etc


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aaron Griffey, Hayward Ca. on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 03:08 pm:

Your and you're is what I was hoping would come up.
I guess I should read the message before I post it.
there was a security company here in Cantspellafornia that had signs on some of their customer's places that said, "Smile, your on candid camera"
I saw a sign on a long car hauler at a Turlock swap meet some years ago.
It said, "hall's to car's, toe's well".
Five words with seven mistakes.
Actually it was a nice to axel trailer with fore wheel's thow.
The trouble with posts like the last two that I just made is that a lot of folks will not post because they are afraid they may make a mistake.
I don't mind seeing the mistakes as much as having some California educated fool telling me I'm wrong not to put that stupid mark before the S on plural words.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By george house on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 03:21 pm:

Yup, reckon most of us are just showing our country roots. Why; if we was more sophisticated, we'd be on a polo horse or yachting forum. But naw; . . . we're content to debate 30 W or multiviscosity, engine originally painted or not, buzz coils vs. distributors, etc


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kirk Peterson on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 03:42 pm:

highlight (grin)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert G. Hester Jr., Riverview, FL on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 04:01 pm:

Personly, I cain't have two much respeck for a werd that only be spelt wun way. :-) :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By M Philpott on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 04:10 pm:

Well gee Frank, I think they're just being deliberate as to show what really matters.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By A. Gustaf Bryngelson on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 04:29 pm:

There is one very good reason to use correct spelling when on a forum, many of the internet forums are international, and there are users who do not speak the language. The internet translators are getting very good, and it is possible to communicate in many languages, but only if spelling is correct, as well as attention to homonyms. Holly cow, I can not believe I managed to spell homonym correctly.
Best
Gus


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Chantrell - Adelaide, Australia on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 05:54 pm:

Or you can write your text in your email program, spell check it there, and then cut and paste your text into this forum; and it is free...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Stewart -Calif. on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 06:00 pm:

I spell so bad ( publick edumacation in the 1960,s) that spell checker gives me totally different words like: Model T shows up as OCD to By another one!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Stewart -Calif. on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 06:05 pm:

You see! by was supposed to turn into Buy. I give up, I'm going to go put air in my 14's tires.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Alex Brown on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 06:14 pm:

I'm going to upset someone no doubt but I'm going to say it anyway... I would like to present a different point of view.

Why does it matter and who cares!!! Cry me a river, take a chill pill and like build a bridge :-) get over it! (Sorry 21st C lingo)

I have a university education in subjects including Law and Political Science. I can spell well when I choose, I can also write very well structured essays if I am am required to... BUT...

This is the 21st Century and this is an internet forum and the younger generation do not get as caught up in spelling and grammar.

I'm not saying this is right or wrong but it is a fact. I would assume to go as far so to say you do not enunciate like the generation before you, neither do you construct your sentences or manage your vocabulary as they did one or two generations past.

It would also not surprise me if we have some older folk on here who never had the opportunity or the need for a higher education and make do with the skills with which they have been equipped.

I would also go so far as to say that the internet generation also have their own particular grammar, syntax and acronyms. i.e.

LOL, RFLOL, WFT, OTT, TTYL

We no longer speak the language of ancient Greece, or of the Celts or even of Elizabethan England - our language (in its entirety -spelling, grammar, syntax) is ever evolving.

However, in the main what I suggest you would find is it is not a poster's ability to spell or not to spell that is the real issue - but rather it is the taking of time to proof read before posting.

English is an ever evolving language, it has been changing for hundreds of years and will continue to.

And to finish on a lighter yet poignant note - why do Americans spell English words so poorly? E.g.

Color, flavor, honor, neighbor, rumor

I'm j/k before you send out the Marines to hunt me down and take me out. Opps I used an acronym - I hope someone can interpret?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Eagle Ida Fls on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 06:26 pm:

Had I not spent my youth fooling around with old cars I might have paid more attention in school and become a better speller and writer. The spell check helps and I will try to do better in the future but I hope we don't discourage any of the folks who have wonderful things to show or say from posting on the forum because they feel they may mis-spell a word or make a grammatical error.
Rich


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Alex Brown on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 06:31 pm:

Well said Richard.

I cnduo't bvleiee taht I culod aulaclty uesdtannrd waht I was rdnaieg. Unisg the icndeblire pweor of the hmuan mnid, aocdcrnig to rseecrah at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mttaer in waht oderr the lterets in a wrod are, the olny irpoamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rhgit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whoutit a pboerlm. Tihs is bucseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey ltteer by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Aaznmig, huh? Yaeh and I awlyas tghhuot slelinpg was ipmorantt! See if yuor fdreins can raed tihs too.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Patrick J wegelin on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 06:33 pm:

not too pick on anyone but lately someone posted something about Kevlar but spelled it Kewlar.
i"m just giving this as an example, not to offend anyone.
my only peeve about spelling I suppose would be when Key words are misspelled.
If someone was hunting thru archives for info , they might unfortunately miss some good input by someone
Patrick


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aaron Griffey, Hayward Ca. on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 07:03 pm:

Alex may be right about the language changing though the years but the uses of to, two and too have not changed.
The same for your and you're.
And as far as some folks not having a chance to go to higher education is crazy. Is anyone here going to suggest that all the stuff we have been talking about is beyond 6th grade English?
I never went to college but I learned how to read, write and spell in grade school.
I have argued with college graduates about that damn apostrophe before the S when some put it in there on a plural word. And they won't listen because they've been doing it since grade school.
Who told them to do that?
Change Y to I and add ES if the word ends in Y.
Otherwise just add S to make it plural. There is no mention of an apostrophe.
When I came to CA. my oldest was in the 4th grade.
She came home and told me about how poor the teachers let kids write and get by.
I asked a teacher about it and she just told me they didn't think it was that important.
I am not a great speller but I know better than to talk and write like I've never been to school, because I did go to grade school and learn to read and write. Anyway, did you not have to go to school until you were 16? I did.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Luke Dahlinger on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 07:04 pm:

The spelling errors don't bother me half as bad as thread jacking. It's usually done by the same couple of people.

Lots of good information gets pushed by the wayside when the thread shifts.

My grammar ain't too bad for a Southern Boy- after all we don't has no educaytun down here. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Davis-SE Georgia on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 07:06 pm:

I guess it all depends on what kind of response you desire from your post. If I were asking a question and wanted someone to answer it, I would want to make sure I used proper spelling, grammar, and punctuation. It just makes your post easier to read. I've seen some that were so full of misspelled words, poor grammar and punctuation, that you couldn't even tell what they were asking. Who's gonna answer something like that? If you're just making a comment or something, then it's not as important.

I usually try to spell words correctly and use proper punctuation. Words like to, two and too and there, their and they're are kinda pet peeves of mine. Not that I point out the errors to others, but it is a personal point of pride for me to get them right. However, I am quite guilty of occasionally using words like kinda and gonna, but those are fairly well accepted today and I think most folks know what I mean.

BTW, I like the new spell check feature of the forum. It's not perfect, but it picks up my typos pretty well.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By clayton swanson on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 07:25 pm:

spell!! a hillbilly like me can barely drive the computor and you want me to spell correctly too?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gordon Byers - Rangely CO on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 07:27 pm:

I have to come down on Frank's side on this,errors such as the difference between to, too, your and you're, etc. show only the authors education level and won't show up with spell check. Any actual spelling errors, for the most part, are highlighted and/or underlined while the message is being typed and is a simple matter of right clicking on the word for the correct spelling. For this reason it appears to me that incorrect spelling on this, or any forum, is only pure durn laziness. And it only takes a minute to re-read a post for errors. Because this is the first time I've seen anything on the forum that address's this issue, and doubt that it will come up that often, I doubt seriously that it will cause anyone to refuse to post here. Not a big issue but now that Frank has addressed it I felt the need to chime in. End of Rant.
Gordon


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andrew Heffey on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 07:33 pm:

This thread started with the suggestion to download Open Office for free. Most computers either come with a free word processor preloaded or the owner will buy a product like Microsoft Word. Rather than downloading something from the internet, with all its associated risks, have a look on your computer and use what you have already got.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Semprez-Templeton, CA on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 07:54 pm:

Frank,

Well, I could and did VS couldn't and taught. I have learned a great deal from those whose grammar and spelling wasn't always perfect. Many had a secondary education or less.

Communication is still the most important thing we humans can achieve whether it is presented in the Kings English or not.

I find I have learned a great deal more from folks whose speaking skills were not up to the level expected from academia, than from all the college professors who lectured to me during my university years.

A great many people know things not taught in formal schools,and,can be a great source of wisdom.

The fun for me is finding these wise people and learning.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By steve miller- mississauga,ontario on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 08:53 pm:

Back in the mid 70's I (Canadian) was in bar in Mishawaka, Indiana along with the manager of the American office and my England born engineer. After a few, my engineer got up on the table and announced to the crowd " We gave you our language, we gave you independence, you f****** both of them up.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Leming on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 08:58 pm:

I write the way I want to, and sometimes make a few spelling errors, most of the time those who read my posts get what I am saying. We can all try harder, but to be honest, the forum is one place where me and my little T's can just be ourself! The T wasn't perfect and neither am I, but the T was off-lee close!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mack Cole ---- Earth on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 09:07 pm:

I am going to have to start my own thread like Garret .Why I dont belong here.Because I cant spell.
I type it like I say it most of the time.
I guess Frank and a few others would think I was not from here if I called em on the telephone and ask em a question.
Frank dont wad your drawers up so tight over spelling man,you will get a squeek in your voice.
Out there in Mexifornia you are probably 1 of the last english speaking people out there.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 09:20 pm:

It's a combination of the English language with words like to two too and also a problem with knowing the left and right. I learned to type in jr hi using the touch system with all the fingers. I have a problem with right and left so many times I use an e when I should use an I or a u when I should use a t. Have to check it myself. The program uses spell check which is OK if you know how to spell the word and just goof up, but some words such as Los Angeles or San Diego might not pass spell check even if OK.
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Craig Anderson, central Wisconsin on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 09:30 pm:

If any of you need occasional help with certain words you can't beat this little freebie (free to home users) http://wordweb.info/
I have it on all 3 computers and use it ALL the time.
Put a shortcut in the Quick Launch bar so it's handy....... :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fred Dimock, Newfields NH, USA on Saturday, May 05, 2012 - 09:40 pm:

Hey -- anyone can learn how to spell correctly.
It takes a genius to find new ways to get the message across with innovative spelling.
I see a mess of geniuses on this board.
In fact I see a mess on this board except when we are discussing Model Ts, old stuff, new stuff, religion, and politics.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Sunday, May 06, 2012 - 02:09 am:

I have been somewhat tied up the past couple weeks. So I am behind in reading here. We had a couple similar threads last year, and I know I had fun with a couple of them.
Definitely, a few of the posters I most look forward to reading are not the best spellers or going to win any awards in composition. But I don't care! I like what they have to say. So please don't shy away from responding or posting in any way.
Spilling an sent ants struck sure our knot them host imp hurt ant thinks inn are whirl.
Derive car full eh, ant in jury, UUII


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Frank Harris from Long Beach & Big Bear on Sunday, May 06, 2012 - 02:13 am:

O K O K all I was attempting to do was to offer a free program that could check the technical words that our web site highlights in yellow as incorrect even when they are correct.

Our we site does not like proper technical words. The Open Office program simply lets you check technical terms that the T web site says are not spelled correctly. If you don't want it don't download it and that's the name of that tune.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By kep NZ on Sunday, May 06, 2012 - 02:54 am:

i would like to learn spelling and grammar. Unfortunately they are illegal now.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By William L Vanderburg on Sunday, May 06, 2012 - 08:16 am:

Keep on living and English will be illegal, too.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ross Benedict - Calgary, Alberta on Sunday, May 06, 2012 - 11:08 am:

There is a two-letter word in English that perhaps has more meanings than any other two-letter word, and that word is 'UP.' It is listed in the dictionary as being used as an [adv], [prep], [adj], [n] or [v].

It's easy to understand UP, meaning toward the sky or at the top of the list, but when we awaken in the morning, why do we wake UP?

At a meeting, why does a topic come UP ? Why do we speak UP, and why are the officers UP for election and why is it UP to the secretary to write UP a report? We call UP our friends and we use it to brighten UP a room, polish UP the silver, we warm UP the leftovers and clean UP the kitchen. We lock UP the house and some guys fix UP the old car.

At other times the little word has a real special meaning. People stir UP trouble, line UP for tickets, work UP an appetite, and think UP excuses.

To be dressed is one thing but to be dressed UP is special.

And this UP is confusing:
A drain must be opened UP because it is stopped UP.

We open UP a store in the morning but we close it UP at night. We seem to be pretty mixed UP about UP !

To be knowledgeable about the proper uses of UP , look the word UP in the dictionary. In a desk-sized dictionary, it takes UP almost 1/4 of the page and can add UP to about thirty definitions

If you are UP to it, you might try building UP a list of the many ways UP is used. It will take UP a lot of your time, but if you don't give UP, you may wind UP with a hundred or more.

When it threatens to rain, we say it is clouding UP . When the sun comes out we say it is clearing UP. When it rains, it wets UP the earth. When it does not rain for awhile, things dry UP.

One could go on & on, but I'll wrap it UP , for now ........my time is UP , so time to shut UP!

Oh...one more thing:
What is the first thing you do in the morning & the last thing you do at night? U P

Don't screw UP. Send this on to everyone you look UP in your address book.

Now I'll shut UP


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Charlie B actually in Toms River N.J. on Sunday, May 06, 2012 - 11:09 am:

Up Chuck. lol.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Poane on Sunday, May 06, 2012 - 11:18 am:

I don't know. I kind of like misspelling words. So next time I bring up the subject of putting in a True Fire in my 14, the focus will be on the words and not the butchering of a model T! lol


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Sunday, May 06, 2012 - 11:23 am:

English is a strange language, and many words have changed their meaning over time. In the King James Bible we read a man shall "cleave" to his wife. These days cleave means to separate or split apart. It also uses the word "let" which meant to prevent. Now let means allow. In both those cases the new meaning of an old word is the opposite of the old one.

We are seeing the same thing happen today. Many use the word "bad" to mean good. Other examples can be found.

Some regional dialects can make a difference in how we spell words. Not intentionally, but because we sound them out. Such words such as coming being spelled comin etc.

Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Gruber- Spanaway, Wash. on Sunday, May 06, 2012 - 11:26 am:

Ross Benedict,
That was GREAT!
Thanks
I'm going to lock it UP in my vault.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Gruber- Spanaway, Wash. on Sunday, May 06, 2012 - 11:31 am:

Misspelled words are pretty easy to figure out.
What gets me are posts that have no caps or punctuation.
Almost impossible to read.
After all...we're not all college professors...we're a bunch of gearheads.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Willard Revaz on Sunday, May 06, 2012 - 12:11 pm:

How about the misuse of personal pronouns! Commonly done by TV reporters, anchors, and those who should know better like media writers. Ten little words in two cases (nominative and objective) which I learned in the 6th grade. Irks me to no end. Also, the redundancy of "Very" unique! Would you say "the light switch is 'VERY' off"?

Just my $.02 worth on our deplorable evolving society.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John McGinnis in San Jose area, CA. on Sunday, May 06, 2012 - 01:34 pm:

Willard,
I'm with you....somehow there is an ongoing problem with direct and indirect object pronouns...as well as subjective. I just love the one "me and him are going to the show". A product of our education system.....or is it the media?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Sunday, May 06, 2012 - 02:10 pm:

I'm probably as guilty as anyone in butchering the English language, but what really gets me is that some errors have become used so much that society is beginning to consider them to be correct. I think the word "saw" might eventually be dropped from the English language! So many people insist on saying "I seen this", and "I seen that",....."I seen it on T.V.",.....I've even heard TV news commentators use the word "seen" incorrectly. I can understand people making that mistake in actual speech, but what makes me believe that we are beginning to regard statements like "I seen it...." is the fact that it's becoming more and more common to see someone actually write,...."I seen it on TV", or "I seen it in a magazine", or "I seen it yesterday".

Ok,....you've probably SEEN enough, right?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aaron Griffey, Hayward Ca. on Sunday, May 06, 2012 - 02:12 pm:

I once saw a '32 Ford with the license number,"ARE32"
I asked the owner what that meant. he said that the car belongs to our whole family so it is "ares".
I asked why they didn't call it,"OUR32".
I hear radio & TV announcers use ARE in place of OUR.
It is NOT "ARE fathers brought forth a new nation". It's OUR fathers.
Words spelled wrong or grammar mistakes I don't mind. I have trouble spelling also. But that is something that has to be learned and memorized and is easily forgotten.
The other stuff is not just something used occasionally, it is used all the time. Like the TO, TOO and TWO. Or ARE and OUR. And 's.
That's 4th grade stuff.
If you can't spell guarantee or the other word that starts with a W that's no big deal. They are seldom used words when writing.
Another very simple rule: After every word or comma or period you need to HIT THE G#$D%^ SPACE BAR!! Whycan'tyoudothat?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aaron Griffey, Hayward Ca. on Sunday, May 06, 2012 - 02:30 pm:

Related and funny.
Some new folks won't know this but you should here it.
About three years ago on this site our favorite French model T restorer, who does not know English, was asked by RD about parts availability and prices of model T parts in France.
Our French friend replied, through the use of the majic internet translator, that a tire in France would cost about $300, but he could get one from Snyder's for $130 including shipping and a French woman.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well I ordered four that day and asked to have one shipped every 10 days.
This is what happened;
Our T guy in France spelled one word wrong, the tax word, according to Dick Lodge, our world famous translator.
There is a French word for tax that is something like "franchise". The word for French woman is almost the same.
Since it was spelled wrong (in French) the electronic translator picked French women instead of tax.
So the story of the moral is: Get it nearly right to avoid BIG mistakes..
I often wonder if ht e French fellow knows about the mistake he made and the laugh we got out of it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerome Hoffman, Hays KS on Sunday, May 06, 2012 - 03:26 pm:

Frank, I've been using Open Office for almost 4 years and use the spell check often. I also use FireFox and have it set up to spell check as I type, a red squiggle line shoes up under the misspelled word. All I nee to "fix" is move my curser over the word, and right click and up pops a list of correctly spelled words and then I pick the correct on I want. I type better then my Dad, a poorer speller than my Mother but have these tools to help me aspire to a better speller than I really am. I would rather be out working on my Model T than spelling better. LOL


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Sunday, May 06, 2012 - 03:29 pm:

AAron, Look at the last line of your post!
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Sunday, May 06, 2012 - 03:30 pm:

And look at how I spelled Aaron! It's very easy to make mistakes, even on the simplest of posts
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ross Benedict - Calgary, Alberta on Sunday, May 06, 2012 - 03:38 pm:

I used TY, TYVM in an e Mail the other day . . the 30+ year old didn't know what I meant . . Obviously not an Elvis Fan. Wonder if he even knows who he was . . LOL

Bob Gruber . . it's UP to you . .


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aaron Griffey, Hayward Ca. on Sunday, May 06, 2012 - 04:59 pm:

Norm, I saw that after I hit the post button, but you may know by now I don't continually spell the ht e.
As I have said, mistakes and misspellings I can handle, continual use of the wrong 4th grade word or punctuation gripes me.
I can go with no punctuation. And some do because they are not sure about it. That's OK. But to put punctuation where none is needed and makes it wrong is just plain silly.
Why would you write, "Jame's has to Willy's car's now"?
Who said to put any apostrophes in that sentence? And use the wrong tu?
And Norm, you did not spell my first name wrong.
Which brings up another issue. I am so G@#$D@#$% tired of repeating how to spell my name and arguing about it that I just tell them it's fine with me if they want to spell it Arron.
Never name your poor kid Aaron.
And I'm sick of hearing, " Oh, we have a neighbor girl with that name". And don't name your daughter Erin.
Everyday I get emails about bras, ladies undergarments, hair care, cosmetics, and opportunities to meet men for dating and other crap that they think they are sending to a woman because of my first name.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Sunday, May 06, 2012 - 05:14 pm:

The modern way of naming people is to misspell their names on purpose! My daughter in law is Synde (Cindy). Our great granddaughter's name is Kharli (Carly) and her brother's name is Issak (Issac). I guess the parents think it is unique, but it is difficult to spell unless someone tells you.
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Sunday, May 06, 2012 - 05:19 pm:

I'm as guilty anybody, and more guilty than many in regard to bad grammar, spelling, typos, and yes, misuse of apostrophes and quotation marks. However, I really think that a huge amount of errors could be avoided with proper use of the "Preview/Post Message" feature that is built into this forum.

I'm guessing that many people actually consider this feature as just an extra step that just slows the posting procedure down. We should (me included) pay attention to that word "Preview", as it is just that,....an opportunity to re-read what you are about to post. By that, I mean, re-read EVERY word, slowly and think about it, and many of the errors will be caught. On my part, it's just lazy to be in such a hurry to skip this step.

Now, I'm about to "practice what I preach",.....(I hope).

I can catch the typos, however, as I've heard it said, "you can't fix stupid! Ha,ha.......harold


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Sunday, May 06, 2012 - 05:23 pm:

Norm -- The traditional spelling of her brother's name is Isaac. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Sunday, May 06, 2012 - 05:30 pm:

Mike - You just helped to prove Norms point!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Sunday, May 06, 2012 - 05:33 pm:

And you know, being as I seem to be in a "ranting" mood, as far as I'm concerned,...."texting" is for kids and their smart phones. Most of us old guys just don't "get it", and we don't care. I for one, think it's dumb, and probably won't change my old and stubborn mind!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Sunday, May 06, 2012 - 05:44 pm:

I just misspelled it myself. it is Isaak. It's so easy to do, and even hard to spot when proof reading.
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Eagle Ida Fls on Sunday, May 06, 2012 - 05:55 pm:

If you are so excited you can't sit down because someone just told you how to adjust your carb or set your coil you may not be thinking spelling or grammar. Isn't that more of what this forum is about? We don't always have the same composure as we do when we are trying to publish something.
Rich


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Sunday, May 06, 2012 - 06:08 pm:

Norm - You have a good point! My wife always says, "If it looked O.K. to me when I wrote it, why wouldn't it still look O.K. to me when I proofread?"

I guess that makes a certain amount of sense too, huh?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Sunday, May 06, 2012 - 06:10 pm:

Oh heck,....I give up! Proof read!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob from Nova Scotia on Sunday, May 06, 2012 - 07:08 pm:

I have not been able to keep myself from laughing at a few of the responses submitted to this!! The Queen's English is indeed being brutalised as years pass!!!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Davis-SE Georgia on Sunday, May 06, 2012 - 07:25 pm:

I spent four years in the Army between high school and college. When I had Technical Writing in college, my professor gigged me for using a comma between next to the last word in a list and the word "and" which preceded the last word in the list. For instance....... Nuts, bolts, washers, and cotter pins. She said the comma between "washers" and "and" should not be there. My high school English teacher specifically said you were to use a comma there. The professor asked me when I had gone to high school. I told her and she said that there were a few short years where they indeed taught that, but no more.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerome Hoffman, Hays KS on Sunday, May 06, 2012 - 07:33 pm:

Hal, You were in HS before I was even thought of, but as I remember, that comma before "and" was how I remember.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Davis-SE Georgia on Sunday, May 06, 2012 - 07:39 pm:

Perhaps your English teacher went to high school during the same period as myself.:-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By kep NZ on Monday, May 07, 2012 - 02:29 am:

i know English teachers who say things like "You and me will go over there and..." It hurts to hear it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Halpin on Monday, May 07, 2012 - 03:54 am:

Mozilla has 'spell check'.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Monday, May 07, 2012 - 08:52 am:

A late friend of mine once said, "I only ever made one grammar mistake in my life, and I seen it just as soon as I done it." (He's also the guy who said, "I don't know what all the fuss is about sushi. We've had sushi in Georgia for years. We call it 'bait.'")

On texting:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fred Dimock, Newfields NH, USA on Monday, May 07, 2012 - 09:12 am:

When I was in high school my best friend's mother was a teacher.
He would get upset when his mom would return notes he left for her on the kitchen table with red correction marks.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fred Dimock, Newfields NH, USA on Monday, May 07, 2012 - 09:13 am:

woops -- Do it today and you will go to jail for child abuse! :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By HARRY A DAW on Monday, May 07, 2012 - 09:30 am:

I have a B.S. in Education & a M.A. in Education plus 18 hours. I have taught in jr hi and high school for 30 years. I am ambidextrous or have the ability to use either hand for most activities. My mother who taught for 42 years was always on my case about my spelling and hand writing until she took a class and they studied ambidextrous people. It is a fact that we usually have a great deal of problems spelling and writing because we do not have a dominate side in our brain. If there had been special ed when I was coming up through the grades, I probably would have been assigned in it. Fortunately when I type a blog here on this site, it highlights my misspelled words and I can right click on the word and get the correct spelling. This has happened on at least six words in this blog.
I just offer this as a different point of view to what some people go through. In a high school once I knew the answer to a question was Europe. Could not spell it. I spelled it URIP on the test. The teacher thought it was so funny he actually counted it correct.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stan Howe Helena, Montana on Monday, May 07, 2012 - 09:31 am:

When Charles DeGaulle was Prime Minister of France he married a gorgeous young model whose English was very poor. At an interview shortly after the marriage the interviewer asked the new Mrs. DeGaulle what the most important thing in life was to her. She answered, "Appenis." Whereupon DeGaulle turned to her and in a loving and tender manner said, "I believe, my dear, you mean 'appieness'."


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stan Howe Helena, Montana on Monday, May 07, 2012 - 09:43 am:

The problem with spelling is that so much of correct spelling in the English language depends on syntax, or the way in which the word is used or is intended to convey meaning. This is opposed to grammar, which is the conformation and construction of the sentence.

Not picking on Harry here, but spell checker only picks out spelling mistakes, not syntax mistakes. In Harry's post above, "dominate" is spelled correctly but is not the intended word. "dominant" is undoubtedly the intended word. Spell checker does not pick up on grammar, syntax and composition errors.

From my personal standpoint, I would rather have a letter from someone with many spelling and other errors than no letter at all. Just as some folks can not play a fiddle, no matter how hard they try, how many lessons they take and how much they want to learn; some people cannot learn certain things such as spelling. My little friend Savanna is 11 and can outplay many adults - including me - in a fiddle contest. Her friend Maggie, who is almost 13, goes to the same lessons, practices even more than Savanna does and wants so much to play well but just doesn't have the talent or coordination it takes to be a hot fiddle player. They are still best friends, ride horses and barrel race together, take Tai Kwon Do together and play guitar for each other in the fiddle contests. But they both know before they start who is going to make the cut to the top five and play the final round and take home the trophy and the money. We would do well to learn from their understanding of human dynamics.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By M Philpott on Monday, May 07, 2012 - 10:06 am:

Is there some reason that this stupid thread is getting more comments than the one's that people are asking for help with their Model T? If spelling really matters that much then start another forum, but if someone needs help but can't spell all that great, it's OK and let this dead horse end as it should have right from the beginning.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Monday, May 07, 2012 - 10:26 am:

Where to begin?
1 Yes, many of the most common errors in spelling and grammar are basic fourth grade material, not high school or college level.
2 Willard, your post is uniquer than any other one of its kind.
3 Mack: Badges? Badges?! We don' have to show you any esteenking badges!
4 Mass media are staffed by people who bring us regular Les Nessman moments because we've reached the place where their editors don't know any better and the people who hire them don't know or care. I can't imaging Ted Husing or Andre Baruch saying any of the stuff I hear on radio or TV daily.
5 A hundred years ago an older woman told her granddaughter, "Dear, there are two words I wish you wouldn't use. One is swell, and the other is lousy. The girl replied, "OK, Grandma. What are they?"
6 You can't be to careful when your writing.
7 Always remember to use apostrophe's correctly.
8 Luke, what kind of oil should I use?
9 A preposition is the wrong kind of word to end a sentence with.
10. And never start a sentence with a conjunction.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Monday, May 07, 2012 - 10:31 am:

Well M, apparently people are enjoying participating in this thread or it would have died earlier. There's no harm being done, so if you don't want to read it, just skip past it.

This thread is much more enjoyable than the political ones. It's silly for someone to think that he is going to change someone else's mind on political matters through espousing his opinion. Half of those who hear his opinion already agree with him, and the other half think he's an idiot. Nothing will ever be accomplished there.

When someone asks a question about Model T's, usually there is an answer (or several) which will be posted, and that's that. Usually there is no reason to extend the conversation past that point because a solution to the problem has been reached. This thread is like we are a bunch of folks sitting around shooting the bull with each other and having a good time. No harm, no foul.

There -- wasn't that fun? :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rick Goelz-Knoxville,TN on Monday, May 07, 2012 - 10:45 am:

WHUT.

rick


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stan Howe Helena, Montana on Monday, May 07, 2012 - 11:56 am:

Additionally, Mike, in regards to the forum police post, most of the questions that are asked have been asked and asked and asked and asked and answered and answered and answered and answered over and over and over and over again. When a newby or somebody who didn't pay attention the first zillion times it went around asks a question there is virtually always some nice person who will take the time and make the effort to help them with their question. As you say, after that the thread tends to wander off into opinion and a general BS session which is exactly what I like about Model T's. I have other geezers who like the same things I do and want to sit around and BS about them. Anybody who has heard my stories more times than they want to is welcome to get up and go get themselves another beer or whatever they want. On here, there are some people who don't want any thing to do with any thing or any body who isn't marching to their drum or listening the THEIR stories. We are all welcome to leave the thread or not click or it to begin with.

It is probably true that each one of us should be out working on our T's rather than sitting in front of the computer typing about them. Anybody who doesn't want to read what I post doesn't have to read it, they can go out in their garage by themselves and sort little bolts into little plastic bags if that's what they want to do or write the definitive book on all things known and unknown in the world. I probably won't read it because I will be busy interacting with my Model T friends on the forum, at tours, at auctions, on the phone and by email.

Right now, however, I'm going out to sandblast the housings on Ruckstell number 68 and finish putting it together. I won't post any pictures or comments on that because I have done it before and I wouldn't want to offend the forum police again by beating a thread to death. I was going to start a new thread about an interesting auction I went to on Saturday that had a bunch of Model T stuff on it but I think that's been discussed before, too, and I wouldn't want Mr. Forum police to have to jump on me for repeating my self about auctions.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Davis-SE Georgia on Monday, May 07, 2012 - 12:34 pm:

Steve,

Your post reminded me of a joke. A Southern Belle enters a beauty contest and proceeds to ask a group of girls "Where are y'all from?" One of the snootier of the girls replied "Somewhere where we don't end our sentences in prepositions." The Southern girl replied "OK. Where are y'all from, B!tch?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John P. Steele Rusty, Montana on Monday, May 07, 2012 - 01:02 pm:

Good one Hal!
Stan I resent being called a geezer. Next time I'm up there we will talk about the weather.
I've learned more about English here than I did in English class. Guess I took to many days off to fish instead of going to school.:-):-):-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stan Howe Helena, Montana on Monday, May 07, 2012 - 03:02 pm:

OK, John, you're pre-geezer.

John, you should have gone to the auction. I went to Orin Olson's funeral and then drove as fast as my Hemi would run with the trailer behind to get there before they sold the 26 touring with the Ruckstell. I missed it by about two minutes. It sold for $500. Big drum. Complete and under the car. Touring body was not bad. I tried to buy it from the guy who bought it but no go. Oh well. The T's were pretty cheap, the running, driving 25 touring sold for $2900, the cute little 18 pickup from Saskatchewan that you could have driven home with an hour's work sold for $1600. The A's brought a little more but most of the interest was in the 59 Chevys. They brought $7000 each.

They finally got around to the few T parts there were, not much there, the wood wheels did OK, a lot of the later 30's wire wheels they no saled because they couldn't get $5 apiece, the engines were pretty rough. I bought a 20's and a 26, the only good one was a 25 that looked like it had never been apart, I let the guy who bought the 16 have it for $85 since he wanted it for a spare. I paid $110 for the 26. No head, stuck, been apart, dunno why I bought it, I think it's toast. The 20's one I bought was mediocre, probably worth the $35 I paid. I got a headlight fork for $15, a box of headlights for $15, a couple other little deals. Got a Jumbo Giant trans and a couple neat spare tire carriers, a 20 inch TT rim and 2 rims for my disk wheel project. I thought they were stupid, they sold a lot of parts before they sold the cars. Wrongo in my auction world. Deal of the day was a Model A engine, home shop overhaul, painted and ready to bolt in and run. $250. It sold before I got there.

By the way, that is too many days off, not to. I went to school because you guys were too mean to invite me to go fishing with the two of you. I only missed two days of school in High School. =) =) =)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Monday, May 07, 2012 - 03:16 pm:

Steve - YOU'RE number six just cracks me up. Having come to know you and your posts as I do on this forum, I think there is a pretty good chance that YOUR choice of spelling on that one was deliberate. If not, it just goes to show than none of us are going to get it right all of the time, no matter how hard we try.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Monday, May 07, 2012 - 03:23 pm:

Now that I think about it Steve, I'm sure it was deliberate because in the same post, you used the unique word,..."uniquer"!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Monday, May 07, 2012 - 03:26 pm:

Mr. Philpott - As soon as you seen this thread, it might have been better if you had went somewhere else instead of wasting your time!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Davis-SE Georgia on Monday, May 07, 2012 - 08:10 pm:

I saw this on a Facebook post and thought "How timely."

I hate people that don't know the difference between your and you're. Their so stupid.......


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ron Patterson-Nicholasville, Kentucky on Monday, May 07, 2012 - 11:57 pm:

This thread makes me sick to my stomach and, in my opinion, a waste of MTFCA resources and bandwidth.
Perhaps the author should descended his self-professed high perch and recognize this is a Model T technical Forum? Forum participants are here asking for help with their Model T problems. You either fully understand or have experienced the stated problem and can provide a firsthand input or you don’t.
A critique of Forum posters spelling and grammar serves absolutely no purpose.
Sorry guys, but I am weary of this kind of BS
Ron the Coilman


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By kep NZ on Tuesday, May 08, 2012 - 03:35 am:

"I paid $110 for the 26. No head, stuck, been apart, dunno why I bought it, I think it's toast."
Not if it is remotely rebuildable. Those blocks are popular these days.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stan Howe Helena, Montana on Tuesday, May 08, 2012 - 09:27 am:

Interesting that there is only one comment about the stuff at the auction. Guess I should have started a new thread. Oh well, a lot of people on here don't have much interest in T's anyway, probably wouldn't care what stuff sold for or where it went. =) =)

I agree, Kep, I thought it was a good buy. I need a good wide drum transmission. I foolishly let one get away from me last year that was like new but I'd already sold it before I pulled the hogshead and took a look. Need one for my Barnyard Cruiser. Zoom Zoom


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stan Howe Helena, Montana on Tuesday, May 08, 2012 - 09:34 am:

Interesting that there is only one comment about the stuff at the auction. Guess I should have started a new thread. Oh well, a lot of people on here don't have much interest in T's anyway, probably wouldn't care what stuff sold for or where it went. =) =)

I agree, Kep, I thought it was a good buy. I need a good wide drum transmission. I foolishly let one get away from me last year that was like new but I'd already sold it before I pulled the hogshead and took a look. Need one for my Barnyard Cruiser. Zoom Zoom


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stan Howe Helena, Montana on Tuesday, May 08, 2012 - 09:34 am:

Dunno how I did that.


Posting is currently disabled in this topic. Contact your discussion moderator for more information.
Topics Last Day Last Week Tree View    Getting Started Formatting Troubleshooting Program Credits    New Messages Keyword Search Contact Moderators Edit Profile Administration