Hello All, The other day I Cleaned Lucie's oil line and I came to the realization she needed torn Down. It won't take much to put her back together. But... There are four bad coils on the Magneto. The Question is Do I bite the bullet on the Magneto or just hang an alternator on Her? I had been starting her on Battery and switching to mag to run. I really wanted to keep Her stock She never had a starter or Generator. Any and all comments Welcome I'm Brand New at this and I know You have the Experience. Thanks, Henry
Since you have her torn down, go ahead, bite the bullet and get a rebuilt coil from Wally of "Total Recoil". Lucie Mae will thank you and you'll be glad you did. There are those here that swear by distributors and alternators and that is their right, but Model T's are only stock once and when you start converting away from the factory original way the Model T came off the assembly line, chances are it will never go back. As for me, I love the sound of the spark coils, as my Model T coaxes me onward and can't imagine not having that. I put in a rebuilt mag from Wally in 2010 and after re-magnetizing the magnets using the 36 volt in car method, my T has never been so happy or run so well. She even starts on MAG now. Jim Patrick
The coils and the magneto are different things. If the coils are bad, send them to Ron Patterson or Brent Mize and they'll be good as new. If the magneto isn't sending current to the coils, it could be because you somehow altered the post or its connection when you cleaned the oil line. Or the magnets may be too weak to provide enough current. If that's the case, the magnets can be charged in the car (good) or with them out (better).
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Oops! I misunderstood which coils you meant. The book recommendation still goes.
Back in 2010 it cost me $190.00 for a rebuilt coil from Wally, plus you needed to send in your coil as a core. Very reasonable, I thought; and Wally and his wife are very friendly and helpful:
Wally Szumowski
Total Recoil
6146 S. Natchez Ave.
Chicago, IL 60638
(773) 586-4485
e-mail: modeltnews@aol.com
Jim Patrick
I agree. If the engine is out, put a new field coil in.
If you have the booklet "Electrical System" you will find instructions on how to rewind a magneto coil. I have done that to three coils and it only costs the price of the tape and the boat resin. Just follow the instructions. Mine work just fine.
Norm
Hal, you have answered your own question.
You also have to carefully check the crankshaft end play and coil ring poles to the magnet pole pieces all around for about .030, if you want a good mag after the fix.
Well, not really. I was only recommending installing a newly rewound coil ring. As to who rewinds it? Yeah, I'd lean toward buying one, but I do keep seeing folks saying they have done it successfully, so I might consider doing another one. That was the reason for my other thread.
If your engine is torn down, it would be a good time to magnaflux the crankshaft. I vote with those above about installing a Szumowski rebuilt mag coil. The magnets can be easily recharged using my simple mag charger technique.
Ted's Magnet Charger.pdf (74.5 k) |
Henry Glosemeyer;
If you are considering a new field coil consider RV Anderson he is one of the BEST.
Henry Glosemeyer;
If you are considering a new field coil consider RV Anderson he is one of the BEST.
I have Wally Rebuilts on my shelf and I am just up the road in Minnesota.
I'm Going to Give Lucie Mae A Rebuilt Magneto and Fresh Magnets. Thank You All Very Much. Henry
Great choice!
There are two ways to charge the magnets. 1. Individually, which entails dismantling the magnets from the flywheel and charging them one at a time with a magnet charger and 2. Charging them on the flywheel in the engine while still mounted on the flywheel. Although I have never used the #1 method, in fairness to those who promote that method, they say it is the better way to go, but I can only speak for the #2 in engine method and obtained fantastic results. Here is the thread detailing my experience: www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/118802159978.html.
If you plan on charging the magnets while still on the flywheel, in the engine, the best, most reliable time to locate the N magnet for this is with the hogshead off, especially if your magnets are weak and the compass is unable to detect the magnet through the thickness of the hogshead. Good luck, Let us know how it goes. Jim Patrick
Oops. That is: www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/118802/159978.html.
BE CAREFUL!
Notice the two recharge procedures in Jim's link above are materially different. If you start mixing them together you can do more harm than good.
Ron the Coilman