Meek auction report

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2012: Meek auction report
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 10:51 am:

The Meek auction at Saint Clair MO on Saturday drew a good crowd. As usual, some things sold for more than they were worth, and other items went cheap. Parts dealers brought big trailers and hauled away heaping piles of stuff, but we little birds managed to peck up a few crumbs. My big prize was an engine hoist for $150. Not exactly a steal, but less than retail. I also brought home a couple of unusual (odd, strange) items I'll show later.

It was nice to see and visit with some of our forum members in person. I might have bought more, but I dropped out on a couple of items when I saw that forum friends were bidding on them. I'm sorry I failed to get a picture of Dick Lodge, but I was able to shoot a few other forum guys.

I'll start with the cars. This time I took notes, because there were too many to remember.




1924 wagon frame, $1500


1921 rusty project, $2900


1927 coupe, not running, needs work, $4400


1927 Tudor, a nice straight car, $6200


1927 touring, probably the best buy of the day; an excellent tourer for $7000


1926 roadster, a nice one, $6900


1929 Model A Tudor, $7500


Ford tractor, $1500


The star of the show was the gorgeous 1915 touring, $14,5000.


Colin Pilkington, who also had a lot of parts for sale, visits with Mark Freimiller of Model T Haven. Behind Colin is Steve Meek.


Doug Money (green shirt) was among the shoppers.


The 1915 was the center of attention.


Steve Thum and Stephen Heatherly saw something unimpressive.


Bill Devine of Birdhaven Model T Parts (white shirt, right) ponders the goods.

More to come. Stay tuned.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stephen D Heatherly on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 11:42 am:

Well, that's an interesting pose! :-)

Stephen


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 12:55 pm:

I have been waiting for Steve to post first, because I knew he was taking notes and could be a lot more informative than I can be. I did take a few photos, though.



Steve Jelf, looking at the cars.



John Danuser (red cap), waiting for the auction to begin.



Jackie Allen, of the St. Louis Model T Club, and Marge Meek. Marge was looking great, and I promised her that Anja and I would call and arrange to drive down to see her soon.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steven Thum on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 02:10 pm:

That picture of me with young Stephen is me getting him to help me load the 5 rear axles I bought.

Steven


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 02:16 pm:

Steven, he looks about as enthusiastic as I would in those circumstances.

Actually, when I had my recent surgery, the doctor said I would have to avoid lifting heavy weights for 6-8 weeks. I told him that wouldn't be a problem, since I have been avoiding lifting heavy weights for the past few decades.... :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Voss on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 03:01 pm:

The cars sold for about half price of the last sale I went to here in Ohio.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bernard Paulsen, San Buenaventura, Calif on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 05:35 pm:

Thank you for the report. It's amazing how little money it takes to buy a Model T when you're at the right place at the right time, cash on hand. An improved Roadster for $6,900, a Touring for $7,000, even a brass Tourer for $14,500 . . . all very civil prices.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 06:05 pm:

Stephen, I see you forget to change the clock in your camera, too. BTDT.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stephen D Heatherly on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 06:08 pm:

Ricks, there is a difference in forgetting and not knowing how. :-)

Stephen


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 06:15 pm:

I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. Really nice pix, anyhow.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Doug - Braidwood (glow in the dark), IL on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 06:37 pm:

My wife wanted the roadster really bad. She said we need to save our pennies faster.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael Thomas on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 07:24 pm:

It was my understanding that the brass T did not sell..


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 09:32 pm:

Is that '15 Touring the one involved in the wreck, or did he have two of them?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Vince M on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 09:58 pm:

Ken and Marge were kind enough to let my daughter and me drive the 26 roadster a few years ago on a tour when my T was down.

That thing runs like a scalded dog. It was in great shape.

Somebody got a great deal on that gem.

vince m


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Doug - Braidwood (glow in the dark), IL on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 10:07 pm:

I was told that the 15 pictured is not the one involved in the wreck.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Doug - Braidwood (glow in the dark), IL on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 10:13 pm:

Here are a few pics of the 15 before the auction.




Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Doug - Braidwood (glow in the dark), IL on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 10:14 pm:

Here was a Model T engine stand I found I want to copy.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Doug - Braidwood (glow in the dark), IL on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 10:16 pm:

This was an interesting generator cutout that I was hoping to get the name, but you can't see it in the picture.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Doug - Braidwood (glow in the dark), IL on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 10:18 pm:

This reminded me of an oil pressure switch Ralph showed before. Not sure what it was.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 10:19 pm:

The '26 Roadster was Ken's first T, and for several years, his only one. It is the car that I have always associated with Ken - he drove it to Dearborn with us in 2003, and on the first organized tour we attended, the 2004 Show-Me Tour in Neosho MO. It was later that he began adding to the stable.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Doug - Braidwood (glow in the dark), IL on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 10:22 pm:

And last but not least, I finally found the proper use for the elusive "Modified Bitumen Roofing Tar".


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Putnam, Bluffton, Ohio on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 10:28 pm:

Doug: That cable coming out of the transmission cover is a speedometer drive cable. It is driven from a gear behind the clutch spring. I do not remember the brand name. JP


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill Stephan Two Rivers Wisc. on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 10:46 pm:

Thats a Patterson speedo drive. The shaft gear is a two piece gear that installs without pulling the tail end apart.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Danuser on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 10:59 pm:

The 26-7 touring and the 15 Touring are still for sale they belong to Dave Kern Fulton Mo . Dave also has Meeks wrecked 15 to rebuild He belongs to the Kingdom Of Callaway MTFCA in Fulton Mo if anyone needs his ph number email me at danuser88@ktis.net and I;ll be happy to pass it on.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steven Thum on Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 11:09 pm:

Doug,
I now own that engine stand. If you want some measurements or other information contact me off line.

Steven


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stan Howe Helena, Montana on Monday, May 14, 2012 - 01:20 am:

That '26 roadster seems pretty cheap to me. There was an estate auction in Billings, Montana yesterday. A restored by poorly and years ago restoration, non runner, tires half rotten etc, brought $5000.

I would be curious as to what order they sold them in. Did they start with the Model A tudor and come down the row to the right or start with the pickup and go to the left. I'm thinking they came from the Model A to the T's. ????????????


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stan Howe Helena, Montana on Monday, May 14, 2012 - 01:21 am:

Too late and too tired. "A restored but poorly and years ago 26 roadster ............ Etc.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ron Dupree on Monday, May 14, 2012 - 07:53 am:

Stan,

Tractor was first. They then continued selling from left to right along the line.

Ron Dupree


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Danuser on Monday, May 14, 2012 - 09:41 am:

Stan the rdster had a rumble seat, ruxstell and the new disc brakes


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Danuser on Monday, May 14, 2012 - 09:43 am:

Steve Thum I'd like those dimensions for the engine stand also danuser88@ktis.net


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stan Howe Helena, Montana on Monday, May 14, 2012 - 10:43 am:

That roadster was the deal of the day. Wish I'd have been there and had some money. Typical deal is that if I'd have been there it would have brought $12,000, which is about what it should have brought with a Ruckstell and disks, let alone the rumble seat. I wonder why it was so cheap? Obviously there was plenty of money in the crowd. They must have been waiting to see if things were going to be cheap or not.

I'm amazed that with all the T people there who buy and sell T's and T parts that nobody bought the Roadster and the Touring just to flip them. There was at least five to ten thousand on the table to be made on those two cars. Either would have brought 10-12 on ebay, at $10 apiece there was $6 to be made, at $12 there was $12 to be made.

I never really considered going to the auction, it's a long ways from here and I assumed there would be no end of money there for the cars and parts. That's the thing about auctions, you just never know.

I have a 26 roadster pickup project I am wanting to sell, it will need restoration but is a solid project. I want 2500-3000 for it. It would take several thousand dollars and a lot of work to put it in the condition those cars were in.

How did the rest of the stuff sell? The engines, etc.???


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aaron Griffey, Hayward Ca. on Monday, May 14, 2012 - 11:08 am:

Thanks guys for posting the pictures and the notes.
Seems to me the tractor was the deal of the day.
There was also a Nash brand speedo drive that went into the hog's head cover. Looked similar.
Excellent pictures of the cars, parts and forum members.
Thanks again.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By J Berch on Monday, May 14, 2012 - 11:34 am:

In my area the little Ford tractors don't bring as much as they used to. It used to be when someone moved from the city to a small acreage in the country, the first thing they had to have was a 8 N, 9 n or something similar. They were a hot item. The tractor manufacturers picked up on this trend and started building all these fancy little all-wheel drive tractors and equipment. The Yuppies seemed to have plenty of expendable income so they started buying the new tractors instead. A nice clean pretty and painted one will still bring pretty good money but overall the price has been less from what I've seen.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stan Howe Helena, Montana on Monday, May 14, 2012 - 11:50 am:

Same here. I've probably owned 25 or 30 of them over the years, used to be I could put one in the paper or park it by the road and sell it that day. Now the only ones I can sell are to collectors and have to have good tin. Unless they are cheap. Cheap. Cheap. Too bad, they are a fun little tractor and will do a lot of work. Worst thing is they don't have hydraulics.

I have three right at the moment, an early 9N with 8-32 back tires and good tin, an NAA or Jubilee with a loader and a 600 that I am working on the three point but about to give up and take it to the shop and have them fix it.

I just bought an International 444 for a better haying tractor. Nice tractor, 12 volt, 2 spool hydraulics, good three point, etc. etc. It's a sweetheart. I also have an International 300. It's a great little tractor, too.

My 9N.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rick J. Gunter on Monday, May 14, 2012 - 03:57 pm:

Does anyone have photos of the parts and selling prices?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mack Cole ---- Earth on Monday, May 14, 2012 - 07:59 pm:

Stan you want another NAA? :>)
I can hook ye up!
Naa you say! 1 to many allready!:>)
Looks like that was a great auction.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steven Thum on Monday, May 14, 2012 - 08:56 pm:

To the guys that wanted measurements of the engine stand I need to apologize. I was trying to unload the axles I bought and dropped one on my finger and bust my finger like a balloon. So I spent most of the afternoon getting it stitched up. I will try to get the measurements tomorrow. I just want to rest right now.

Steven


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stephen D Heatherly on Monday, May 14, 2012 - 08:58 pm:

Steve, sorry to hear that. Hopefully it heals quickly.

Stephen


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Monday, May 14, 2012 - 09:04 pm:

I went by Camry. I wasn't about to go all the way over there with a trailer pulled by the gas hog Suburban just to drag home big pieces I'm likely to find closer to home. So my purchases were limited by hauling space and by parsimony, and by dropping out of the bidding when forum friends were after an item. I didn't pay a lot of attention to final prices on items I didn't buy, except for the HCCT that went for $850. What I bought may suggest the prices in general: engine hoist (cherry picker) like new, $150; box of old nuts & bolts, $6; miscellaneous box with a half dozen timers, a few cutouts, and other stuff, $20; box of transmission parts, including three nice-looking pre-26 drums, $17.50. My general impression was that some things went for more than they were worth (like worn out engines and blocks), and a few things went cheap. I think the turnout of parts dealers pushed prices upwards.

My one criticism of the operation was the layout. A lot of parts were set out on tables with the legs removed, so they were on the ground and harder to see, especially as they were close to a building or a fence, leaving limited space on one side. I missed a few things because I couldn't see them.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mike_black on Monday, May 14, 2012 - 10:49 pm:

Steve,
When you get well, can you put the pic and dimensions here on the forum please?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mike dixon on Monday, May 14, 2012 - 10:56 pm:

steve, id like to have the measurements also, im gettin ready to pull an engine out of my 25 fordor, then ill be bring you my coils, poor ol mike dixon is granite city, hope the fanger gets better


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steven Thum on Monday, May 14, 2012 - 11:23 pm:

I'll start a new thread with the measurements and pictures tomorrow afternoon.

Thanks
Steven


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Danuser on Monday, May 14, 2012 - 11:32 pm:

I bought quite a bit, the auctioneer only let us buy choice once, then the whole lot for the box, so when we got to 3 and 4 dip pans choice 1 time, then we had to bid and take all, didn't need the 3 dip's, but wanted the 4 dip pans, but I had to buy all 13 to get what I wanted . so when they came to good 26-7 gas tanks I took all, as most had there paint, no rust out etc.bought heavy on 25 back style headlights as I was out of inventory. Mark Friemiller got at least 2 vehickles, very reasonable, he and Charlie haver from Liberal Mo were together, we had folks from several states there. Nice day, good friends, thanks Steve for the good photo's and Dick Lodge


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