Where should i buy diff' parts from?

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2012: Where should i buy diff' parts from?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By kep NZ on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 - 03:08 am:

Where should i buy diff' parts from? i hear people on this forum like a place called Langs but what is their shipping like? i would like the parts soon (within a week) because the car is on the roadside and i would like to drive it closer to home.
Also, how much power do i need to use a high ratio gear set? Will it be hard to set up the tolerances or is it pretty much bolt in and drive?
Not much horsepower (the engine is too dead to make more powerful) so should i spend extra on the 12 tooth pinion for better hill climbing? There is no flat ground where i live so hills are an issue. Thanks for everything so far


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Simon Bayley on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 - 03:21 am:

Kep,

I have used Laings with great success and shipping has been very reasonable when sending New Zealand.

Send me a private message with the parts you need and I may be able to help you out.

There are a coupe of parts suppliers in NZ that may have the parts you need but normally I find its still cheaper to bring parts in rather than pay their prices.

Cheers Simon
Canterbury


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By kep NZ on Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - 01:56 am:

Not sure how to send messages but i know you can figure out a lot about people from doing that.
So nobody has any suggestions on which ratio i should find?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bede Cordes, New Zealand on Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - 02:28 am:

Kep,

I find Chaffins are the quickest service to here as they are physically the closest to us, I've ordered Monday, stuff arrive Friday, that's to Canterbury. However, ordering can be the problem as they have no web-based ordering, so I usually ring them in the morning to get them late in the afternoon. It can be hard sometimes to get them to answer though, I think the helpful Dave is a busy bloke. Check they do have the parts you want in stock, otherwise they hold back the order and don't let you know.

If you live in hilly country, would putting in a high speed crownwheel and pinion be a good idea ? You might be better to stay stock or see if you can track down a Ruckstell ?

Regards,
Bede
Also in Canterbury, 15 miles away from Simon


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bede Cordes, New Zealand on Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - 02:30 am:

PS,

I also use Lang's too, would recommend as well, just a bit slower getting here.

Bede


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Simon Bayley on Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - 02:31 am:

Kep,

I had a high ratio crown wheel and pinion in my last car and removed it. It puts a bit of extra strain on the engine.

Just my 2cents worth

Cheers Simon
smbayley@snap.net.nz


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By kep NZ on Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - 03:06 am:

Thanks guy, How much slower is Langs getting here? i am too angry or something to use telephones.
Need speed! But guess i need power to use high ratio gears... i did want to add a turbo if i get another engine to rebuild but if i did i would have to replace the standard gears, So many choices but ruckstells do not exist unfortunately.

(you posted your email now weirdos might get it)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bede Cordes, New Zealand on Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - 03:31 am:

Kep,

maybe only a day or two slower.
Get clicking !

Bede


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By kep NZ on Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - 03:39 am:

Ok, Thanks again.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gavin Harris on Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - 03:44 am:

I have used Macs, Snyders and Langs. All equally good, 7-10 days delivery to NZ. Prices vary, you have to compare all individual items for all dealers. Good web sites. I found that the NZ vendors don't have the same range of products so have to on order after receiving the order from the buyer,then they add on their profit margin.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bede Cordes, New Zealand on Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - 04:06 am:

What are all us Kiwis doing on here anyway ? We should be in our sheds working on our T's ! Regards, Bede


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By kep NZ on Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - 04:14 am:

True that.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gavin Harris on Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - 04:17 am:

First real cold night of winter; cold in the workshop; warm in my office, enough said.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By kep NZ on Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - 04:57 am:

It is raining outside, i have not had a shed in a while now and the car is 8.5 KM away. Working by candlelight in the rain with pieces of wood shoved in the soft ground instead of axle stands is not such an appealing idea tonight.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andrew Heffey on Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - 04:58 am:

I find that a cold night in the shed takes the fun out of good hobby. Kep, I have nothing against the rest of the vendors but I tend to mostly use Snyders. I have had equally good service from Langs. Have a look at their web sites and add up the total of all the bits you need and then compare prices as each are cheaper on some bits and not others.

Andrew, Kapiti Coast


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gavin Harris on Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - 05:03 am:

Andrew, I'm in my hobby office sifting through the rally paperwork; lots to take to the recyclers.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andrew Heffey on Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - 05:13 am:

My rally paperwork is still if file boxes next to my chair. I have most of the unrestored panels fitted to the woodwork on the 1916, checking the fit. I need to trim some of the wood frame but nothing too serious. Then I can start on repairing the panels. I call that progress. Not a lot but still progress.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gavin Harris on Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - 05:28 am:

Rebuilding some split rims for the back end of RussT, have a better chassis ready for a riveting session for RussT & building a better windscreen for Buttercup. It is good to have nights and weekends to be able to do something constructive again.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Leming on Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - 10:09 am:

Fastest shipping for me is Snyders. I live somewhat close - maybe 200 miles from them, I get the parts next day UPS. However, Snyders is not always as respectful when you call with a quality issue or problem, I really like Langs and Macs, but they are slow shipping, so I have to plan one to two weeks. In other words I dont think they process and ship the order as fast. I think if you want the best quality and trust you can get, Langs is the place. They are always willing to work with you on problems.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill in Adelaida Calif on Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - 10:49 am:

Kep:

Whoever you order from, make sure that they have the parts you need in stock and/or cancel any backordered items. Many businesses will hold an overseas order until all items are in stock.
Also make sure that you supply an e-mail address and a fax # if possible.

Bill


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Glen Chaffin on Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - 10:52 am:

Dealers who sell parts for cars other than the model T can usually afford a girl to answer the phone. However, selling Model T parts takes a back seat. Dealers , like us who only sell Model T parts will never get rich and cannot afford a lot of overhead. The profit margins are slim. So please bear with us. It may take a few phone calls to get an answer, but that means that we are helping a walk in customer and cannot immediately answer the phone. However , your needs are important also and that is why we are here. Being under staffed makes the job more difficult, especially with a high volume of business. Dave seldom gets lunch and is always busy answering technical questions and I am constantly busy manufacturing new parts and solving problems. So please bear with us. We occasionally need a few hours sleep.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Brian Sullivan, Powell WY on Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - 11:13 am:

I will sure as heck vouch for Chaffins.com and Glen/Dave.

The last order I did - I got a call on my cell from Glen on a saturday night to confirm my order details were understood and correct. I started to say, man- I am certainly grateful but, go home, shoo ;). Dave has been patient above the call of duty for sure as well.

I am not mentioning this as a slight against the others. Project money has been mostly split between he and Langs, both of whom have given outstanding service.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Schedler, Sacramento on Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - 01:25 pm:

Chaffin is the differential expert. If you call Chaffin's garage you not only get the part you want, Dave can answer your questions.

Ditto Brian above


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - 07:55 pm:

Kep NZ:

I didn't see Texas T Parts mentioned, They know Ts because of the long tours they do. Also Ford-N-More in Spokane Washington are maybe the most knowledgeable of all the venders.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bede Cordes, New Zealand on Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - 10:07 pm:

Glen Chaffin:

I've never talked to you on the phone yet, always Dave, but thanks for the gesture of my fan blade kit and camshaft bearing re: order December. Once I get the bearing, please charge me for the parts, your family has to eat too.

Regards,

Bede


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By kep NZ on Thursday, May 17, 2012 - 05:04 am:

What is the copper coating for?

Was this normal? Or somebody read about building up worn parts with nickel but only had some copper at home?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bede Cordes, New Zealand on Thursday, May 17, 2012 - 06:00 am:

Kep,

I've never seen that before, but I am in the under 35's club and haven't seen any near as many diffy's as the guys on here. I'm sure a gear would not have copper on it, copper is soft and would wear rapidly, perhaps bronze could be more likely. Deposits from a thrust washer perhaps ? Is that out of your car ?

Bede


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Scott Conger on Thursday, May 17, 2012 - 06:32 am:

I've seen a number of axles with copper plate on the gears pressed on the end. I suspect that this may have dropped the coefficient of friction to aid in pressing on.

Brian in Powell, I've sent you a PM.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Glen Chaffin on Friday, May 18, 2012 - 01:13 pm:

Copper coating is part of the heat treating process. Wherever you apply copper you get no heat treat. The part remains soft at that point.
If you look at early camshafts you will find copper plate between the lobes. Only the lobes and bearings were hardened


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