What years were these yoke mounted headlamps used? Also why do the have the manufacturer's ADLAKE logo on them rather than Ford? Aftermarket??
I have the copy 1928 Ford T parts manual but the headlamp shells it shows only goes back to 1915.
PS. They are wet in photo because I just finished primer & wet sanding.
Thanks in advance, I learn as I go with these T's. Jimmy
Why are you working on your T on the roof????
Thanks for your help Dave!
Early 1915 T
Was that style used for any previous years Robert?
I think 15 only but Ford might have put on some late 14's I had a 14 years back with them
If they were original 1915 Model T they would be marked E&J, not Adlake. They are aftermarket for pre - 1915 T I think.
ADLAKE is the brand name for Adams and Westlake. They were a manufacture of a great variety of kerosene and electric light for the transportation industry. Most railroad lights were by this company. They also made kerosene lighting for Pullman cars. Also kero side lights for trucks. I have several pair of them for trucks and four or five of the railroad switch lights.
Some adv on aftermarket yoke style electric headlamps.
According to Prof. Boggess, the 1915 fork-mounted headlamps belong in the same dustbin as the 1915 Klaxon. Neither are/were factory equipment.
R.V.
Does that go for Canadian built cars too ?
Gavin,
For Canadian cars there is ample proof that Ford of Canada for quite a while during the 1915 production used the fork mounted electric headlamps. Below is a new 1915 being uncrated in New Zealand – not out of the crate yet, and the fork mounted electric headlamps are clearly visible. (Photo from the Colonial Motor Company NZ Collection. Used by permission. Thank you to Roger Gardner who sent the photo and used it on page 22 of his excellent book “Ford Ahead – A History of the Colonial Motor Company Limited.”)
For a detailed explanation please see: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/29/24151.html
For USA production there has been and continues to be a debate which was also discussed in the same thread above. Short summary: Bruce in his Encyclopedia has the fork mounted electric headlamps shown and listed as used during the early 1915 USA production see: http://mtfca.com/encyclo/I-O.htm#lamps where he states, “During the latter part of 1914 and perhaps early 1915, headlamps were fork-mounted, on the same forks as used by the carbide lamps. Early in 1915 the lamp with the riveted-in-place post became the standard. All were electric, powered by the magneto with the bulbs wired in series. Brass rims discontinued about June 1915.” Trent Boggess has looked repeatedly and has not yet (as of the posting above – and probably still not) found any documentation in the Benson Ford Archives to support normal 1915 production using the fork mounted headlamps. And many of us are still looking to see if we can find additional evidence to support one or the other theory. Note Bruce and Trent disagreed but were still very agreeable that additional evidence might later be found that would clarify the question. In the mean time if anyone has some early photos of T’s on the factory assembly line with fork mounted electric lamps – please let us know.
Respectfully submitted,
Hap l9l5 cut off (clearly stem mounted – but Ghost had the fork headlamp brackets until as a teenager I swapped them out for stem mounted lights – because that was “correct.” I am still looking for additional information because of that.)
Thanks Hap,
I will keep a copy of that photo for all the local doubters.
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