1926 Model T Fordor sunvisor size

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Scott Kramer on Monday, May 21, 2012 - 12:58 pm:

The sun visor used on the 1926 Model T Fordor and coupe are they the same width ?
Scott


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Patrick on Monday, May 21, 2012 - 02:36 pm:

Yes. Here are a few pictures of how it originally looked. Until I bought this original '26 fordor (original except for the red paint applied to preserve the body from decay), I was not aware the upper and lower sun visor halves were sewn together. between the support struts. Jim Patrick


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Scott Kramer on Monday, May 21, 2012 - 02:52 pm:

Thanks Jim for the pictures & info.
But now I have another question.Both halves are sewn together with what appears to be white thread ? It also appears that the sewing is a little uneven ?
My car was missing the sun visor when I purchased it.I found one last fall at Hershey and I bought the sewn sun visor material at the Dunkirk,NY., flea market on Saturday.There wasn't any installation info with kit.How are they installed ?
Thanks,
Scott


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerry Ostbye on Monday, May 21, 2012 - 03:11 pm:

Just did mine a few weeks ago. If I understand you correctly you bought the cover only ??

If you buy a kit from the vendors it also comes with cloth material and 1/8th " foam.

Apply the foam over the frame, Then the Cloth then the cover. I glued mine around the edges to help hold it in place.

Stretch a align with the frame, cut where you need. I then pulled the bottom material up and over the rear of the frame but under the topside material and spray glue to help hold it in place.

Cut and fit the outside corners to fold them inward so you cant see the ends of the fabric. Then pull the topside material around the frame and cut off the excess.

Poke holes for the 4 outside screws and the 8 center screws. Mount with the 4 and fabric washers then the remaining 8 screws.

Hand sew the white stitch.

Screws and washers can be found at Home Depot.

A FUN project..


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Patrick on Monday, May 21, 2012 - 03:50 pm:

Yes Scott. The sunvisors were probably covered by by a harried upholsterer with hundreds of frames stacked in front of him (her), using a specialized sewing machine with a deep throat for sewing between the struts. The completed visors were then probably sent over to the final assembly line for installation on the bodies. It is easy to see how after doing hundreds of these that the sewing would get sloppy especially with a burly line boss watching your every move to be sure you were keeping up with your quota. Under those conditions, doing it fast was the most important criteria. Since a modern Model T owner restoring his car would take special care in sewing between the struts, I kind of like it that the seams are so crooked. It gives me a certain connection with the poor overworked assembly line worker at Ford who helped build this car.

As for installing your visor, you can get a good idea on how to do it by closely examining the above photos. The visor membrane was slid over the front of the visor and secured around the front and sides with sewed on welting then sewn between the struts, then secured up under the overhanging roof with wood screws from underneath and to the sides of each post. Jim Patrick.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Page on Monday, May 21, 2012 - 04:10 pm:

Scott, this scan from a Model A Ford publication may be of some help. The visor appears to be put together the same way as the later T visors were, Regards, John


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Scott Kramer on Monday, May 21, 2012 - 09:30 pm:

Jerry,
I bought the sun visor cover from Macs-Cartouche.There was nothing mentioned in the sun visor section about the cloth material or the 1/8 foam.
Jim,
I can see your point about people hurrying to get their quotas done so they still had a job at the end of the day.Once again thanks for the pictures.
John,
Thanks for the instructions.
I have friend who does upholstery on older cars,maybe she can install/sew the cover on the frame before its put on the car.
Once again thanks everyone.
Scott


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Scott Kramer on Sunday, June 10, 2012 - 07:59 pm:

On Friday I took a road trip up to see a friend who is restoring a 1926 T coupe and just recently purchased a 1926 fordor sedan.I took my sun visor for my 1926 Fordor sedan along with me.Bert & I compared the 2 sun visors & measured mine & the coupe one.There is about 1 inch difference when measured on the outside lower mounting piece that attaches to the door pillar.Both his Fordor & mine have the same sun visor width.
The Fordor is about 45 1/4 "and the coupe is 46 1/4".I am assuming that the coupe & Tudor are the same width ? The new sun visor material that I purchased is also about 1 inch too wide.
My Fordor is a Canadian car,but do you think that the body would have been made in Detroit and shipped to Ford, Ontario be be assembled to a Canadian chassis ?
Scott


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Page on Sunday, June 10, 2012 - 11:19 pm:

Scott, Does your Fordor have any Robertson Screws anywhere on the body work. If there are some it is more than likely it was produced in Canada. Here are a few pictures that might help you determine if it is Canadian. Our Canadian 1924 Fordor has a mixture of Slotted and Robertson screws. Regards, John

The following two pictures are from previous Forum Postings.



Here are two places on our 1924 Canadian Fordor that have Robertson Screws. The floor boards, & the Visor, also have them.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Scott Kramer on Monday, June 11, 2012 - 04:05 am:

John,
My 26 Fordor has Robertson screws all over the place.I also checked the firewall tag to see if it was Canadian or USA,but it was lightly rusted & couldn't be read.
Scott


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Page on Monday, June 11, 2012 - 08:18 pm:

Hello Scott,

I would be interested in comparing our two Canadian Fordor Sedans, to see what differences there are between the 1924 - Vs - 1926-27. Hoping it help us understand a little more about the Canadian built Closed Cars. If you are willing to communicate by email you can send me a Private Message through the Forum and I will get back to you.

Best regards, John


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Scott Kramer on Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - 04:02 pm:

Hi John,
I have sent you a private message through the Forum.
Scott


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