OT--Ebay, and Ford related

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2012: OT--Ebay, and Ford related
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By William L Vanderburg on Monday, May 21, 2012 - 09:46 pm:

In a bold move, Ford is singling out 13 users of Ebay for fraudulent sales of non-licensed merchandise of all sorts.

The article goes on to say that subpenas were issued and judge granted Ford's request to block Ebay and Paypal from notifying the targeted users.

http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/exclusive-ford-wins-secret-bid-ebay-paypa l-users-171628676.html


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Monday, May 21, 2012 - 10:14 pm:

The most hazardous intellectual property theft has to be the aftermarket CDs of Ford service manuals. If they will cheat Ford, you can bet they will cheat you, and put in spyware, or whatever. I buy service manuals for all the modrens on tbay - used hard copies produced by Ford.

rdr


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Garrett - Boonville, Missouri on Monday, May 21, 2012 - 10:19 pm:

I guess now I need to add to this article:

http://garrett.tinlizzieonline.com/thoughts_fordebike.html


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Luke Dahlinger on Monday, May 21, 2012 - 10:30 pm:

Garrett-

May I suggest you do a little more research before you write articles. I consider myself an above average Ford historian, but there's glaring errors even the novice Ford historian would notice.

Back on topic-

Ford has done this before and I suspect they will again. For that matter GM, Chrysler and Coca-Cola amongst other companies have done the same thing. Harley also comes to mind.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By William L Vanderburg on Monday, May 21, 2012 - 10:41 pm:

If you had read the E-bike article, you would have noticed that Ford has no intention of producing it.

E-bikes are already in production in other countries. I don't see a problem with it. Who wouldn't want a bike that only weighed 5.5 pounds?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By William L Vanderburg on Monday, May 21, 2012 - 10:43 pm:

And please, do not hijack threads with links to your personal website.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ron Patterson-Nicholasville, Kentucky on Monday, May 21, 2012 - 11:02 pm:

William
That's old news.
Ford has been targeting anyone they can identify selling non-licensed merchandize for many years.
I once read a letter from Ford attorneys sent to a perceived scofflaw. If you were a small time Model T parts supplier the tenor of the letter and the depth of Ford pockets would scare the hell out of you.
Ron the Coilman


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bede Cordes, New Zealand on Tuesday, May 22, 2012 - 03:36 am:

Hi everyone,

I recently went into my local Ford dealership (probably close to one of the biggest in New Zealand) to find out about a Ford shirt I had seen someone wearing recently at a classic car meet that I liked. The guy behind the counter said it's not even worth them selling any Ford clothing and merchandise anymore because of all the licencing bureaucracy is too much of a hassle for them.
Unbelievable.

Regards,
Bede


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Garrett - Boonville, Missouri on Tuesday, May 22, 2012 - 03:47 am:

Luke - You call me stupid? If you don't like me, don't go to my website.

William- I wasn't hijacking this thread. I was just posting a link, and I see nothing wrong with that.

Who would want a bike that only weighed 5.5 pounds and looked like some aliens built it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Garrett - Boonville, Missouri on Tuesday, May 22, 2012 - 04:25 am:

Not trying to start conflict, but why do you people (Luke and William Vanderburg of all people) think I'm stupid.

I shouldn't have to say this at all, but I can read. I'm not a preschooler that can't read. So when you say something mean about me or direct towards me, I can read it, even when I'm banned from here. When I was banned, I still checked this website and read stuff on me.

Why can't you be nice to me like a few other people, like Steve Jelf for example.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By William L Vanderburg on Tuesday, May 22, 2012 - 07:13 am:

For one thing, I didn't bully you...and I never said you were stupid, and since I don't believe in mind readers: You have no idea what I think.

If you want people to like you, show you respect, then you must also give respect FIRST!

Not everyone on here is a saint, far from it. There are people on here I dislike, there are probably one's here I wouldn't give a quart of pee to, but I still get along because THIS ISN'T MY SANDBOX. I am a guest here.

Yes, you highjacked a thread. The E-Bike has and had absolutely nothing to do with Ford cracking down on Ebay sellers peddling phoney goods, but if you think it does, then maybe I need glasses. Oh wait, I already wear those.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Luke Dahlinger on Tuesday, May 22, 2012 - 09:38 am:

Garrett-

No where did I call you stupid. I called you out for doing lack of research. As several other people on this forum recommended, do research(and lots of it) before opening your mouth or pecking away on the keyboard. This is one way you might actually garnish a little respect with the crowd here. It shows you are serious and not just making uninformed guesses like you do often.

Your little diatribe @4.25am is exactly why I gave you the title of being a whiny troll. You may not be a troll, but you sure like to whine when something doesn't go your way.

/thread drift


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael Mullis on Tuesday, May 22, 2012 - 09:41 am:

Garrett,
You just lost your argument.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Stokes on Tuesday, May 22, 2012 - 04:06 pm:

Garrett,

Clearly you have a passion for Model Ts - we all do on this forum! But that doesn't make us an expert or any more special than anyone else.

You also seem to have very good skills with a computer. You will know who Bill Gates is. Here is one of his rules....

"Rule 8: Your school may have done away with winners and losers, but life has not. In some schools, they have abolished failing grades
and they'll give you as many times as you want to get the right answer. This doesn't bear the slightest resemblance to anything in real life."

A good teacher will remind us all that we have one mouth but two ears, and that we should use them in that proportion!

I think you will find that the great majority of folk here have much to offer and no axe to grind. You will find the folk here an inspiration with great knowledge. They willingly share what they have learned, some over many, many years. Treat that as a special privilege, collect their experience in the knowledge that one day you may also pass on the knowledge you have acquired to help others, and you will be fine.

And remember that these folk already know another of Bill Gates' great rules....

"Rule 11: Be nice to nerds... chances are you'll end up working for one."

John Stokes
New Zealand


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fred Miller, Sequim WA on Tuesday, May 22, 2012 - 04:53 pm:

I have been collecting Materials, Photos for my research that is unlicensed at this time. I would love to share this information with the club but because of my agreement with Ford (specifically Ford Benson Research) I am very careful. When I publish what I have I'll need to renegotiate a price for what I will use in the book. Working with copyright and licensed material is a headache and I'm trying my best to do it right. We must be careful about posting other peoples property on the internet as it could come back to haunt us.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By A. J. "Art" Bell on Tuesday, May 22, 2012 - 05:34 pm:

Not aimed at, or addressed to anyone, just a reminder that wisdom, no matter how old, can still be current !!

“The moving finger writes; and having writ,
Moves on. Nor all your piety nor wit
Can lure it back, to cancel half a line,
Nor all your tears wash out a word of it.”
- - Omar Khayyam (1048 – 1122)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael Mullis on Tuesday, May 22, 2012 - 10:21 pm:

This took me a while to learn. it isn't aimed at anybody either. I don't know who said it but it is definitely one of the most correct statements I have ever learned.

"It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt"
--somebody wise (timeless)

I have a confession to make.
I seldom post new threads in order to ask questions. I guess it's a pride thing. I usually just use that little icon that looks like a key.
I have found that if you ask it (the key) a question, it will give you the answer that you are searching for. Not always, just most of the time. The forum search option has saved my ego on many occasions.
I am tremendously indebted to all of y'all.

Never-the-less, If need be, I would rather have bruised feelings here than on the side of the road.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Davis-SE Georgia on Tuesday, May 22, 2012 - 10:35 pm:

Frankly, I don't mind if people ask the same questions again. It just keeps the answers (or consensus) fresh in the mind. It's the rule on some forums to exhaust every effort searching through old post. Then and only then are you allowed to ask a question. Then you gotta hope like L you didn't just overlook it and now you're about to be crucified. Pretty unfriendly way to run a forum in my opinion. This one is not like that. And I think it's a better forum because of it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael Mullis on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 12:20 am:

Hal,Absolutely! I couldn't agree more.
I was referring to my approach probably being my way of protecting my ego.
Also, when I search for the answer I tend to retain that knowledge easier. If I have my questions answered without much effort, I tend to not value that knowledge and probably will not retain it.
I too enjoy when topics are repeated. It's kinda like a review for me.
Ultimately, I inserted myself as (first person) into the "off topic" so as not to be labeled as a bully.
Growing up, I insisted on doing things the hard way. I would shoot my mouth off before I knew what I was talking about. As you probably know, that turned off the very people that needed and wanted to impress. You may find this hard to believed but I got my butt kicked more than once as a result (funny I never considered my butt kickers as bullies.) I wasted alot of very valuable resources. Now I just sit and listen when older people try to"teach" me something, even if I'm positive they're wrong.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 01:13 am:

Michael - That's one of my favorite quotes of all time, and it was something Abraham Lincoln said (and something I should probably practice a bit more).

Another favorite of mine from Lincoln is,...."you can please some of the people all of the time, and you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time".


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Davis-SE Georgia on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 09:21 am:

I know a guy who reads this forum all the time and does a lot of homework searching the archives, but he's just not comfortable posting. To coin a term, I guess it's cyber-shyness. At any rate, he called me one day saying he couldn't find the answer to something in the archives, so I posted the question for him. I'm sure he read the answers everyone posted.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By M Philpott on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 12:34 pm:

I always told my kids that in order to learn there is one requirement and that is to close your mouth. You can't talk and listen and learn at the same time. I know I have wished several times that I had asked better and the right questions to my grand parents as they really saw the world change, from horse back to the top of the line Continentals from Ford, not to mention the TV and telephones. And then world wars. You can't talk these type of things into being, it takes and education at the side of the learned. Garrett no one in this thread has called you stupid. I'll be 60 this year and only turned to an bought my first T the first month of this year. I may not wright much, but I read a lot of what has been written in this forum. When I get to the point after working on my T and can add something to the discussion I will. But only after I have learned from hands on experience and from those that have that experience here in this forum.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Patrick on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 01:06 pm:

M Philpot. Even if you had, it might not have done you any good. My Grandmother was born in 1900 and used to tell and re-tell what seemed like the only two stories she knew. Of how she hit a mule in 1916 while behind the wheel of a Model T and of how she wore pantaloons while playing basketball in girl's school. It was like her knowledge and experience of the world stopped in 1919.

She married Grandpa, a WWI Naval Officer in 1919, when he got home from Europe and had her first baby in 1920, her second baby in 1922, her third in 1924, her fourth (my Dad) in 1926, and her twins in 1928. Six kids in eight years, then the Depression hit in 1929. Needless to say my Grand parents had their hands full and their share of worry as to how they were going to feed 6 kids and keep a roof over their heads.

I was very close to Grandma and after Grandpa had passed on (in 1973) and I was discharged from the Marines (1977), I used to go over to her apartment every Monday, have a home cooked dinner with her and watch her favorite shows Tic Tac Do and Wheel of Fortune with her to keep her company. Sometimes, if we watched a historical documentary such as the Hindenburg disaster, Lindberg's solo crossing of the Atlantic or Hitler's rise to power or even an episode of the Walton's and how life was in the 30's, I would ask Grandma about her personal recollections of the events and her answer was always the same. "Honey, I was so busy raising a family, cooking, cleaning and washing, that I didn't have time to pay that any mind..." Jim Patrick


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By William L Vanderburg on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 01:33 pm:

Ok this has drifted waaayyy off the topic of Ford and Ebay.

Thanks LOL


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