If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Think it was time to change timers?
That is a "Tiger Timer". They work fine if you keep them well lubricated. I pack them with grease. That one didn't get any lube and is now a throwaway item, Rob.
Nice Pinstriping Rob. Were wire wheels offered as an optional accessory for that year? I have a very detailed Franklin Mint model that shows your touring with pinstriped wood spoked wheels. Jim Patrick
The timer doesn't look bad. The roller on the other hand? It looks like the crank pulley has grooves from the fan-belt. Aluminum?
NICE '13!
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2
Royce,
I did oil it (OK, sporadically). Also, I've put several thousand miles on that timer.
Jim,
I've been told these type of wheels were on the market around 1915 (House/Houk/Buffalo). They certainly run true.
Wayne,
Your right, the timer innards aren't too bad, only a bit of wear. The roller on the other hand........
The grooves are just grease/oil marks. The belt is a NAPA serpentine, and allows me to run the belt very very loose.
Rob, how often did you clean that timer? Beautiful 13
Stephen
Stephen,
Clean, you mean I was supposed to clean it? Probably not often. I rebuilt the engine about a year and a half ago, and probably had not pulled it off since.
Rob
Also, I had to advance the timer (bend the rod) a fair amount for the Anderson timer. Now, it seems the car could run more advanced, but the timer/rod end are up against the belt now. Has anyone had this problem with the Anderson timer?
Thanks,
Rob
The roller will not wear at all if it is lubricated enough. If you insist on using oil then you really need to do it every 100 miles or so. I suspect a lot of roller timers lasted a long time because the felt cam seals never worked too well. Once you have a neoprene seal they don't get any lubrication. In any case just pack the timer with grease next time and you won't have any wear.
Rob I have used the Anco Timer and was always able to get three advance selections when the rod was bent properly. How many timing selections do you have when on MAG? If you have three then you have all the advance you need.
Many of the ANCO timers cause problems with one or more of the cylinders not firing at the same amount of advance as the others. It is a problem with the design of the timer. Each of the contacts must be perfectly bent and identical to all the others. Also the timing cover alignment is critical when using an ANCO timer for the same reason. You may be expperiencing this from the description of needing more advance, you probably have two or three cylinders getting full advance while one is not.
The Ford or Tiger roller timer is quite tolerant of all sorts of misalignment.
Yes, they should be cleaned periodically. I'm am surprised by the fairly good condition of that timer. I have had problems with the rod hitting the fan belt with both anderson and roller timers. You could get a new belt slightly smaller than the one you have now. This will cause the fan arm to be lower moving the fan over toward the driver's side of the car hopefully enough for the belt to be out of the way of the rod.
Stephen
Royce and Stephen.
Your right, I might not have the alignment right. It seems like there is a bit of hesitation on a cylinder (not before) and that might explain it.
Rob
Bob,
On the rod rubbing the fan belt. On the earlier cars a shorter belt will keep the fan farther away from the timer. On the 26-27 type which are adjusted by eccentric, you can move it one of two directions to tighten the belt. Move it in the way which will move the belt farther away from the rod. That would be clockwise as looking from the back side of the fan.
Norm
Norm,
Thanks, I'll tell Bob when I see him .
Rob