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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Monday, June 11, 2012 - 01:44 am:

Be_Zero_Be:

Thanks for the concern. My wife and I are at maybe 20 miles from the fire. I believe we are safe near Berthoud, its more open here. I do have a friend that is much closer with nothing but forest between him and the fire. I am going to suggest that he moves his antique cars down to my shop until the fire is contained. The plume is bigger and higher than any fire I have ever seen. I used to work on a Forest Service hot shot crew chasing fires and I never saw one as big as this one. I will try and get a photo of the plume tomorrow.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Cascisa - Poulsbo, Washington on Monday, June 11, 2012 - 10:24 am:

Dave,

Glad to hear you are OK.

Be_Zero_Be


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Monday, June 11, 2012 - 10:54 am:

Fire suppression for over a century has led to a buildup of fuel, so now when these western fires get started they're bigger than ever. Settlement of the West took place during an unusually moist period which people mistakenly took for normal, and now that the region is returning to its drier long-term natural condition that increases the fire danger. The fuel and the dryness are combining with rising average temperatures to make these big fires more common.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Monday, June 11, 2012 - 04:28 pm:

Steve J,
Don't you know that all that is the fault of industrialization and the advent of the automobile? (I say facetiously.) That is the problem with learning history, you might actually learn to understand something.
Dave H,
Distance from a major fire is good. Take all reasonable precautions. I remember when the Oakland hills fire raged more than twenty years ago. We were in Livermore, about 40 miles away, and had glowing ash dropping in our yard. Scary.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Monday, June 11, 2012 - 07:22 pm:

We had a fire in 2003 which started 40 miles from San Diego and about 25 miles from here. It started in the evening and by morning it had spread to the outskirts of San Diego. It burnt hundreds of houses. The day after the fire started we had to evacuate and could not return for 3 days. Fortunately our home did not burn. Once you leave an area threatened by fire, the officials won't let you back in, so be sure to take out everything you want to save, the first time you leave. In our case, we took the pickup, the car, a couple changes of clothes, pictures and important documents. The T's were parked in the garage. My original plan for evacuation would have been to go toward San Diego, but the highway was blocked and we had to go east. If it were to happen today, I might trailer one of the Model T's behind the pickup.

We had friends who live in north county who were also involved in a fire situation, and tried to get out with one of their antique vehicles, and couldn't get back in to get anything else, and their house and everything else burned. So, take what you value most, which should be foremost your lives, and important papers, pictures etc and get out of there if the fire gets close.
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 11:11 am:

Yesterday was very smoky here. That was the first day that there was any smoke here. I decided to jump in one of my Ts and head to the high country to see if I could get above the smoke. When I got to Glen Haven about 25 miles from here it was clear. From there up it was clear as glass, not a bit of smoke. When I got up to about 11,000 feet you could look back to the North East and see a huge billowing bank of smoke. that stretched for miles
Side Bar: when I was coming back down towards home I stopped in a small settlement with a grocery store. I went in and asked if they had any oil. We went through their supply of steering fluid and other items but discovered they were out of oil. The lady running the counter called her husband who was outside looking at the T if he had any oil in his garage. He said he did and come back with two quarts of 30 non detergent (which is what I use)I went back in the store and tried to pay them for the oil, but they refused payment. They told me that if was enough to get to see the Model T.
After I got back home the smoke had mostly lifted so it was not so bad. Today I can see no smoke other than a huge bank over the High Park Fire.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Donald Hagstrom on Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 08:42 pm:

Tour of the heavy slurry bombers at Jefferson County, Colorado airport just prior to take-off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVkhqhu1VU4&feature=g-all-u


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Semprez-Templeton, CA on Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 09:03 pm:

Lockheed Electra... AKA P3 Orion is an incredible work horse!

Fires are bad... Just don't wait too long! Vet. of several So Cal fires (beginning in 1956). Be safe, leave early! God speed.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Schedler, Sacramento on Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 11:01 pm:

Here's another look at a P3.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Schedler, Sacramento on Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 11:09 pm:

Is it a P3?? I'm air force, what do I know? I think its a Neptune and the P3 is the Lockheed 4 engine Electra??


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George Button III (Chip), Lake Clear, NY on Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 11:27 pm:

Hal, I flew in P3"s as a USN ASW. Also a couple of P2's in training.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George Button III (Chip), Lake Clear, NY on Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 11:32 pm:

Dave, glad to hear things are ok with you. Here in upstate NY. the state has turned so much land into "Forever Wild", they don't keep up fire roads or allow any clearing of dead wood. If we get a fire like the one out by you, it will burn half the state and never be under control!
Stay safe....Chip


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 12:30 am:

I'm pretty sure that is a USArmy Air Corps Douglas A-20 or A-26, probably carrying 1,000 gallons of retardant.

The P_3 is a 4-engine low wing turboprop, the old Lockheed Electra. It carries 3,000 gallons.

The DC-10 Tanker carries 13,000 gallons, and the 747 Tanker carries 20,000 gallons of retardant. Each has its advantages, and I don't believe either has been used on the Colo fire.

The DC-10 just moved to Aridzona for deployment on one of the fires, probably NM, as that one is getting awfully close to Ruidoso, a very prosperous little city.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerial_firefighting


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 12:36 am:

Sorry, that is a P-2 Lockheed.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 01:46 am:

The fire is still going today. It has now reached 46,800 acres. The cloud of smoke is reported to be 35,000 feet high. There is now 1,200 on the fire lines. I would still like my friend who lives up in the hills in heavy timber country to bring down some more of his antique cars and put them in my shop. Maybe he will do it this weekend, he is closer to the fire than I am.
Some of you that where on the some of the Colorado/Wyoming Tours might remember coming over Cameron pass and going through Poudre Canyon and Rustic. That is the North Side of the High Park Fire. Fire crews are trying to stop the fire from going North over the highway. If a South wind comes up there will be no stopping it. It is all up hill to the Red Feathers Lake Area and its hundreds of houses.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 02:00 am:

Don Hagstrom:

It was reported that yesterday the heavy bombers could not fly because the smoke was so thick. I also understand that the smoke reached Sterling is that correct.
We are right under the flight path for the bombers so we can watch them and the Helicopters fly over.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Stroud on Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 02:51 am:

Good luck to all of you out there! Dave


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 11:43 am:

The fire is still being held on the North side at Highway 14 and the Poudre River. This is the highway that we will take on the first day of the LEAF PEEPER TOUR. It is 92 miles from highway 287 to Walden. Rustic is a small settlement on 14 where we usually gas up and grab a bite to eat. There is one lone gas pump further up the canyon. The trouble trucks will be carrying plenty of gas so there will be no worry about gas if we can't gas up at Rustic. The highway was one of the first highways in the region to be closed. I understand that there has been a few spot fires on the North Side but they are being borated pretty hard. I don't know how the bombers can get down in that narrow canyon. The hand crews also are working the spot fires pretty hard. I don't know how close the fire is to Rustic, but I hope to find out today.

Below I hope is a picture of aspen further up the canyon.

Aspen on 14


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 12:21 pm:

While looking at www.10Tanker.com I found this site for incidents in the US, updated continually:

http://www.inciweb.org/


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 02:45 pm:

It Looks like Georgia wins the prize. I am surprised that they had a fire that big.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Herb Iffrig on Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 10:51 pm:

Cousin Dale just sent me this:

http://wildfiretoday.com/


Herb


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 10:53 pm:

Bad News:

The high park fire has now jumped the Cache La Paudre River and Highway 14 around 2PM this afternoon. The fire is now free to run up the steep canyon wall towards Glacier View. Glacier View was ordered to evacuate as soon as the fire jumped this afternoon. There are 90 homes at Glacier View.

As near as I can find out Rustic is some where around 9 miles up the canyon so maybe those going on the Leaf Peeper Tour will still have a good place to get a quick lunch and gas up. I suspect that a couple of more days will tell because the fire is also working up canyon. Rustic has a really good restaurant and large campground I sure hope it does not burn.

You can see how steep and heavily forested the canyon walls are in the picture above and if I can get this computer to work some more pictures below.

canyon walls

canyon walls 2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Friday, June 15, 2012 - 02:53 am:

Nasty. Thank you for the personal touch. And be safe.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Friday, June 15, 2012 - 08:33 am:

Thanks for that link, Herb.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Friday, June 15, 2012 - 11:59 pm:

I spent the day evacuating antique cars from South of the High Park Fire. I drove a 25 T sedan down some hills that are steeper than some of you have seen. It had juice brakes and was I glad. I now have four refugee cars in my shop along with my four and a motor home and my pickup.

The fire has now grown to over 50,000 acres. They ordered 200 more homes evacuated today at Glacier View. There has been 112 homes burned. The Fairgrounds are taking in refugee horses and Lamas that people were able to get out. I don't know about the cattle. The fire has gone on long enough that people are aware of it and there are no new known deaths.

My favorite refugee car, I can sit and look at it for an hour.

10 cadallac

I would guess that this fall the LEAF PEEPER TOUR will drive through 20 or 30 miles of burned area.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Schedler, Sacramento on Saturday, June 16, 2012 - 01:51 am:

Dave, has anything been said about the origin of the fire? Did some idiot set it (like they are prone to do out here in California)?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Saturday, June 16, 2012 - 01:07 pm:

According to the news we have been receiving here in California, the fire was started by lightning. They say they are going to let it burn all summer and in the fall when the snows start, it will go out by itself. It is just too big for the fire fighters to handle. I hope, that at least, they will try to concentrate on the inhabited areas and try to save as many structures as possible. Dave, I am glad that you and others are helping to get the cars and animals evacuated early, because if they wait until the flames are nearby, it will be too late.

Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Saturday, June 16, 2012 - 02:09 pm:

I would like to try and post a few of the cars we brought down. I am having so much trouble with my computer that doubt I can but I am going to try. I will be having a computer expert (if he is home from orient) to look at the computer. Please forgive me for the double posts, blank pictures and other errors.

This picture if it works in the one I drove down with the juice brakes.

25 sedan


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Saturday, June 16, 2012 - 04:13 pm:

I am going to try once more to post the picture of the neat, neat 25 sedan I drove down with the juice breaks. there were 500 or better foot cliffs on one side of a narrow road with corners every few feet.

25 sedan


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary H. White - Sheridan, MI on Saturday, June 16, 2012 - 07:49 pm:

Ricks is correct. It is a P2V Neptune. (V is for Lockheed) Navy used them for anti-sub work in the 50's and 60's. That extention on the tail was for the MAD (Magnetic Airborne Detection) head. Flying low over the water the head could detect variations in the earth's magnetic field caused by submerged subs. Seems they have removed the outboard jet engines for this purpose.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Cascisa - Poulsbo, Washington on Saturday, June 16, 2012 - 07:54 pm:

MAD = Magnetic Anomaly Detection. Also used in torpedo targets.

Be_Zero_Be


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Schedler, Sacramento on Sunday, June 17, 2012 - 12:43 am:

I like this thread....Bump


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Schedler, Sacramento on Sunday, June 17, 2012 - 12:51 am:

I like this thread....Bump... I sure hate to see all the destruction. It seems like it takes forever for a forest to recover, to say nothing about the homes that are destroyed.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker on Sunday, June 17, 2012 - 09:19 am:

Following photos posted for Dave Huson who’s computer is not cooperating with him.

Below is the 1925 Sedan with the juice brakes that Dave drove down the mountain. Earlier in the thread he commented about he was glad it had the juice brakes.



I need to play with the size on the 1926 Coupe and 1926 Runabout he helped trailer out -- I will post those later.

Respectfully posted for Dave,

Hap l9l5 cut off


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Sunday, June 17, 2012 - 09:34 am:

Actually the letter "V" in P2V stands for Vega Aircraft.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker on Sunday, June 17, 2012 - 11:58 am:

And here are the photos of the 1926 Coupe and 1926 Runabout that Dave helped trailer out of the area:





Respectfully posted for Dave,

Hap l9l5 cut off


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Cascisa - Poulsbo, Washington on Sunday, June 17, 2012 - 02:20 pm:

Hap - you are a super-star ... you must have been a geek in a previous life :-) :-)

Be_Zero_Be


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Sunday, June 17, 2012 - 02:39 pm:

Bob Cascisa:

That's a super nice 16. I would hate to compare it to my 16. I am afraid I would look pretty bad. Where you took the picture above at battle mountain summit is just up from where I hit a cattle guard, doing about 45 MPH in my Center Door and tore up the rear end. There was no sign warning about the cattle guard. In Colorado they always have a sign when there is a cattle guard on the highway. I doubt I can post this message but I am going to try.

HAP:
Thanks for posting the pictures of the cars we brought down for safe keeping during the fire. We also bought done a nice model A coupe but I don't know were the picture went.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Sunday, June 17, 2012 - 02:51 pm:

I doubt I can post the picture of the model A but I am going to try.

model A


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Sunday, June 17, 2012 - 02:53 pm:

Bob Cascisa:

Thats a super nice 16. I would hate to compare it to my 16. I am afraid I would look pretty bad. Where you took the picture above at battle mountain summit is just up from where I hit a cattle guard, doing about 45 MPH in my Center Door and tore up the rear end. There was no sign warning about the cattle guard. In Colorado they always have a sign when there is a cattle guard on the highway. I doubt I can post this message but I am going to try.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Cascisa - Poulsbo, Washington on Sunday, June 17, 2012 - 03:16 pm:

Dave,

I remember that cattle guard well - it surprised the heck out of me as well. That was a great tour.

Be_Zero_Be


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By CharlieT on Sunday, June 17, 2012 - 03:57 pm:

Dave,

Your favorite car is, of course, a 1910 Cadillac 5 passenger touring car. I also have a 1910 Cadillac that started out its life as a 5 passenger touring car.

What does the sign on the windshield say? The car looks very original and I'm wondering if it came out of a museum? As you may know, there is another unrestored excellent original, reportedly with only 6000 miles on it, in the Dougherty Museum in Longmont, Colorado. I saw and photographed that car while on the Glidden Tour in 2009.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary H. White - Sheridan, MI on Sunday, June 17, 2012 - 05:06 pm:

Sorry Royce but the V is for Lockheed. The Air Early Warning Lockheed Super Connie was the W2V. I worked on both of them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1922_United_States_Navy_aircraft_designation_system


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Sunday, June 17, 2012 - 07:10 pm:

Charlie T:

I did not remember that there was a 1910 Cadillac in Dougherty's There are so many really desirable cars in there. The sign say Don Clevland Estate Sale, Sunday May 21 2011, Oneill Nebraska 1910 Cadillac.

Back to the fire, its very windy and hot here today. It reminds me of being in Lytle, Texas last year. There are huge plumes of smoke on the sky line. One of the big problems with the fire is the Beetle Kill Pines. Most of the trees in the higher areas are Pines (Ponderosa and Lodge Pole). There has been millions and millions of dead Pines and they still have their dead needles. Some places have whole hill sides that are brown from the dead pines. All it take is a few hot embers to set them afire like a torch.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By CharlieT on Sunday, June 17, 2012 - 09:41 pm:

Dave,

Thanks for the info on the Cadillac. Does the present owner have any plans to restore the car?

Here is a photo of the one in the Dougherty Museum.

1910 Cadillac 5 Passenger Touring Car

Here is the museum sign

museum sign


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Sunday, June 17, 2012 - 11:36 pm:

Charley T:

Yes the present owner does plan to restore the 10 Cadillac. He is having a hard time staying away from it because he is in the middle of restoring 4 other cars. Also I called him and told him about the Cadillac in Doughterty's, he was aware that it was in there. I notice his front fenders are way different.

Back to the fire:

My wife and I live on a small ridge and coming home tonight we took the higher road to our place and we could see the flames for the first time. It appears to me that the fire is still increasing in size. We could also see a lot of lights (pumper trucks at the fire?)

Hal: I sent you a picture of the Model A, I hope you got it if not let me know. The omner of the cars is not feeling well. I called him this afternoon and told him I would gather up a bunch of guys and move the rest of the cars for him and he would not have to touch a thing. We will see what happens he has plenty of time yet.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker on Monday, June 18, 2012 - 06:45 am:

Below is the photo of the Model A that Dave helped trailer out [looks like a 1930 sport coupe to me -- cloth top but it does not fold down and appears to have the two-piece splash apron used in 1930 rather than the one-piece used in 1931 and has the 1930-31 fenders & bumpers.]



Dave you mentioned you had experience in the Forest Service hot shot crew chasing fires. Have you had a chance to discuss with your friend other options he may be able to do to minimize the damage if the fire does reach his land? I know my Grandfather would use the tractor to plow fire-breaks but that was in the open field and not the woods. Perhaps there are some options that would help? And of course some that might make things worse. And while it would be frustrating to disk up the yard or cut down some trees and the fire didn't reach that far, it might be an option worth considering. Or perhaps even obtaining dirt and spreading it on some areas etc.?

You are in our thoughts and prayers. Things are replaceable but people are not.

Respectfully submitted,

Hap l9l5 cut off


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Monday, June 18, 2012 - 09:49 am:

Hap Tucker:

My friend had a crew in cutting down all the dead beetle killed trees on his property. He is on a very steep hill side and the remaining pines are so thick that plowing would do no good. The siding on the house and the roof are fire resistant. The fire fighters have been borating the houses when the fire is approaching which might help in his case. As I understand it they are borating the houses but not the outbuildings. He has a 08 Talbert in his garage and plans to move a 14 touring out of his shop and into his garage. He also plans to move his 13 touring into his enclosed trailer so if he gets orders to evacuate he can hook on to the trailer and go
The fire appears from here to have laid down quite a bite last night. There is very little smoke this morning that we can see.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Monday, June 18, 2012 - 09:52 am:

Hap Tucker:

My friend had a crew in cutting down all the dead beetle killed trees on his property. He is on a very steep hill side and the remaining pines are so thick that plowing would do no good. The siding on the house and the roof are fire resistant. The fire fighters have been borating the houses when the fire is approaching which might help in his case. As I understand it they are borating the houses but not the outbuildings. He has a 08 Talbert in his garage and plans to move a 14 touring out of his shop and into his garage. He also plans to move his 13 touring into his enclosed trailer so if he gets orders to evacuate he can hook on to the trailer and go
The fire appears from here to have laid down quite a bite last night. There is very little smoke this morning that we can see.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Wednesday, June 20, 2012 - 11:05 pm:

Hope things are ok on your end, Dave. It's been a bad few days without much news.

From www.Wildfiretoday.com

Colorado Sheriff Justin Smith continues to restrict media coverage of High Park fire

Lotta' good info on that site.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Semprez-Templeton, CA on Wednesday, June 20, 2012 - 11:15 pm:

Fires are Bad news and can out run you in a minute. Be safe, be Aware! - John


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George Button III (Chip), Lake Clear, NY on Wednesday, June 20, 2012 - 11:20 pm:

Anyone heard from Dave in the last two days?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Thursday, June 21, 2012 - 12:43 am:

George Button:

I am still here. We could not tell what the fire was doing today because we had heavy overcast, with lots of clouds. Also the wind has gone done some. Yesterday the fire had a real large plume and a long cloud bank. We can see no fire tonight but we could see the fire only once because it is behind large foot hills and in canyons. I did call the Rustic Lodge and campground yesterday and they told me that the fire has come up the canyon within 4 miles. They said the smoke and falling embers were real bad. It does not sound to good for them. Rustic has always been a first day, noon lunch and gas stop for the Leaf Peeper Tour. I hope the Lodge does not go down.
I will try and post the plume and cloud bank from yesterday but I have been having a lot of trouble with my computer, so I don't know if it will come out or not.
plume 1


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Thursday, June 21, 2012 - 12:53 am:

Just in, from link above:

"Five volunteer firefighters with the Rist Canyon Fire Department had their homes burn and one of the department’s fire stations was destroyed during the High Park fire west of Fort Collins, Colorado.

A relief fund has been established, all of which will be used for assisting firefighters, supporting the all-volunteer fire department, and replacing the volunteer’s lost wages while they have been fighting the fire. The Rist Canyon FD is one of two departments in Colorado that receives no mandated tax support according to NorthFortyNews.

All of their funding comes from donations and fund raising events such as selling a cookbook."


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