25 Coupe Trim

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2012: 25 Coupe Trim
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Hatch on Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - 02:08 pm:

Does anyone know if window trim for 25 coupe wood doors is the same as all metal doors? Thanks, Dan.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john kuehn on Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - 02:38 pm:

David Snosnoski who is on this forum probably can answer that question. He is quite knowledgeable about the 23-25 Coupes.
He helped me a lot on my 24 Coupe.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By joe bell on Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - 03:27 pm:

Dan,
The trim is different the one has three screws and the other has four, if you need it for a wood door I have plenty extra's.
Joe


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill Mullins on Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - 06:54 pm:

A 1925 coupe should have metal doors.
Bill


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roy Mathis, Van Buren, AR on Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 02:46 pm:

I had a 1925 Coupe with wood doors - John Manuel has the car now.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Sosnoski on Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 04:23 pm:

Joe is correct. The trim for the wood doors has four screws holding it on. The trim for the steel doors has only 3. There are two variations of the vertical pieces around the window for the wooden doors. In April of 1924 they added a window anti-rattler spring to the bottom of the door pillar moldings which did not exist before then.

The change to the all steel door occurred in mid September of 1924. This is when the documentation changed. The actual change probably happened shortly after that and it could have been phased in. Since the model year changed in August, it is possible to have a 1925 Coupe with wood framed doors. However, the majority of 1925 Coupes would have had the all steel doors. There were no 1924 Coupes with all-steel doors.

The early 1925 Coupes would have been identical to the 1924 models. There was a transition period during Sept - Dec of 1924 where the features of the 1925 Coupe were phased in. I know there are a bunch of Coupes in existence from this transition period. After this period would be the "standard" 1925 model year Coupe. All this makes it difficult to define exactly what a "1925 Coupe" is.

Dave S.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill Mullins on Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 04:51 pm:

Thank you David learn something new everyday.
Bill


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john kuehn on Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 05:19 pm:

The Coupe that I have is actually a 25 that has wood doors also.
The serial no. is a late 24 September no. It actually is a early 25 going by when the next production year was introduced.
Many years ago someone went by the body style and assumed it was a 24 and that date stuck with the title.
The 24 and 25 are almost if not identical to the average guy like they were back in the 'day' so I guess thats what happened with the incorrect date on the title.
We always called it a 24 until I got to researching the details when I restored it.
I have had the car since the mid 1950's.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By joe bell on Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 07:23 pm:

John,
Another change that I have noticed with the 25's, Ford started using up the commercial fenders on them to get rid if the stock, I have seen an original fordor with the commercials also.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Sosnoski on Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 08:25 pm:

John,

Interesting car. If it is a Sept. 1924 then it is one of those rare 1925 model year cars which are the same as the 1924 model year and different than the rest of the 1925 model year. Forgive me, I kind of remember talking with you about your car, but I talk with so many people about their Coupes I loose track of individual cars. I don't have your car in my database. Can you look and see if there is a serial number on the passenger's side floor board riser? Also, can you email me the engine number. I'm trying to track when some of these changes actually made it into production.

The "Commercial" fender with the bead running under the splash apron is not really a commercial fender. It is the standard 1925 style fender. It gets referred to as the Commercial fender because it was also used on the 26 and 27 Ton Trucks where the cars all went to the improved car fenders.

Dave S.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By joe bell on Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 09:58 pm:

Dave,
Thanks for the education! It goes to show you we can still learn something new at my age.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Sosnoski on Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 01:14 am:

Joe,

I learn something new every day. Unfortunately I forget about 5 things every day. Pretty soon I'm not going to know anything!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Manuel, Lafayette, La. on Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 09:21 am:

My 25 coupe with the wood doors is stamped 232328B. The trim pieces around the windows are four screws each.


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