Car weight?

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2012: Car weight?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George Button III (Chip), Lake Clear, NY on Sunday, June 24, 2012 - 07:36 pm:

What does a touring(around 1914) car weigh? Does anyone know what a "Rolling Chassis" weigh. Car complete with no body?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Peter Claverie on Sunday, June 24, 2012 - 11:01 pm:

My 1923 Touring weighs almost exactly 2000 pounds. No idea about the rolling chassis.

Incidentally, the weight is almost exactly equally divided between the front and rear axles - actually about 100 pounds more on the rear. That seems counter-intuitive, until you realize the front axle is in the very front of the car, even in front of the engine, and the rear axle is quite a ways under the car.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Kopsky, Lytle TX on Sunday, June 24, 2012 - 11:33 pm:

The earliest "shipping weight" table I've seen is for the 1915 models. This should be pretty close to the 1914 though. The 15 Touring is listed at 1510 pounds and the chassis is listed as 1200 pounds.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Weir on Sunday, June 24, 2012 - 11:43 pm:

My '24 TT Express Delivery tipped the scales @ 2550# at the Templeton Feed and Grain.3 years ago.

Sincerely

Jim Weir


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George Button III (Chip), Lake Clear, NY on Sunday, June 24, 2012 - 11:56 pm:

Ken and "ALL" , thanks. Ken, those are the numbers close to what I have heard. I am trying to figure out the weight of my 14 Depot Hack.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Monday, June 25, 2012 - 02:59 am:

Here are the official weights from Ford from the 1923 dealer data book: http://www.mtfca.com/books/ford.htm#wts


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George Button III (Chip), Lake Clear, NY on Monday, June 25, 2012 - 07:50 am:

Roger, Thanks. Great information in all the sections of "Ford Data" .....Chip


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Doug Money - Braidwood, IL on Monday, June 25, 2012 - 10:24 am:

There is over a 500 pound difference between Peter car and the book. Wonder what is so different.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Monday, June 25, 2012 - 10:52 am:

Adding the weight of demountables and starter equipment to the book weight reduces the difference to 373 pounds, still a lot. Some figures seems suspect in the listed weights - like 1535 pounds for a 1922/23 runabout, higher than all the tourings..


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Miller, Mostly in Dearborn on Monday, June 25, 2012 - 11:42 am:

http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/1914.htm

The touring and chassis weights are both shown


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Semprez-Templeton, CA on Monday, June 25, 2012 - 12:10 pm:

Jim are you sure Tom didn't have his thumb on the scale? I look forward to seeing you on the 4th! - John


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Coiro on Monday, June 25, 2012 - 12:56 pm:

I notice the 1914 Touring has a shipping weight of 1200 pounds...

http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/1914.htm

... and in the very next model year, 1915, the touring has a shipping weight of 1510 pounds.

http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/1915.htm

I can't help but wonder from where 310 pounds of additional weight came?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Monday, June 25, 2012 - 01:58 pm:

Bob, if you look back through the years, the 1200 pounds figure was first given for the 1909 touring. Perhaps it was correct back then, without front doors - and perhaps even without the then optional windshield and top? Then nobody cared to revise the official weight until the 1915 model?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Peter Claverie on Monday, June 25, 2012 - 02:12 pm:

Doug and others got me to wondering if my memory was faulty (highly likely) so I pulled out the weigh slips.

This was done on the scale at the Farm Services (feed store)with a half-full gas tank, full radiator, normal tools under the back seat, nobody in the car. It's a stock 1923 Touring, metal firewall, low radiator - which I'm told is a combination that was only built for a short while as parts were used up??

Front axle: 900 lbs.
Rear axle: 1080 lbs.
Whole car: 1980 lbs.

Now I'm wondering about the accuracy of the scale........


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve McClelland on Monday, June 25, 2012 - 02:52 pm:

Just drove my 1911 roadster across a brand new scale at work week before last car was 1495 lbs.
Note: that's with no top on it yet.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Seth - Ohio on Monday, June 25, 2012 - 03:07 pm:

I thought maybe Peter had 500 pounds of food in his manifold cooker!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Monday, June 25, 2012 - 03:10 pm:

Early on Ford used the claimed low weight of the T a lot in advertising - perhaps the 1200 lb touring was an exaggerated claim from the beginning?


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