Metal sloshing around in the bendix cover

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2012: Metal sloshing around in the bendix cover
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By cal clements on Sunday, July 01, 2012 - 03:03 pm:

every now and then i hear a sliding sound in what i think is the bendix cover. obviously i need to look in there but with this georgia heat of 106 degrees i'm procrastinating. any thoughts on that sort of noise and things to be mindful of?

also, i wonder if i ought to take precautions when driving on hot days. more oil?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Sunday, July 01, 2012 - 04:06 pm:

Maybe you have repop screws holding the bendix spring?
As too many other repro parts they're not made to the Ford prints, so many have problems with the screws grinding on the cover - they may even cause the cover to fall off.

screwy screws
(Photo by Steve in Tennessee)

Another cause could be a bent starter axle shaft
You may fix it by pulling the cover, replace the screws with NOS Ford screws if you can find 'em or grind off some on the repro screws and/or straighten the shaft depending on what you may find.

Steve Jelf may have some litterature recommendations for you :-) (Like the MTFCA book on the electrical system and the Ford service manual)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace, North FL on Sunday, July 01, 2012 - 04:51 pm:

Cal

Didn't you post about stuck crank, when starting? If your freed it up by rocking the car, the issue may be the Bendix, spring could be broken, gear worn in the Bendix, or the screws are loose and all of that will make noise on cranking or even running.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Sunday, July 01, 2012 - 05:13 pm:

It is important to find out what is making the noise and fix it before it leads to further problems. If it is the screws, the spring, the bendix, or the shaft, they are easy fixes until some of the parts fall into the crankcase. Then you risk problems with the magneto, the starter ring on the flywheel or the transmission. Pulling the bendix cover is not easy, but much easier than pulling the whole engine. If you fix the problem in the bendix cover, and the noise stops (especially if you found all the parts) you have fixed it. If you don't find all the parts, then a more thorough investigation will be necessary.

My grandmother had a saying, "A stitch in time saves nine". She was thinking about sewing ripped clothing, but same principle applies to the Model T.
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mike_black on Sunday, July 01, 2012 - 05:24 pm:

I've had the little tabs break (from too much reuse) and allow the bolt to back out. Usually, you can see a bulge in the bendix cover as soon as you look at it. Unfortunately, I've never "heard" one in time to save it, I just see the stream/puddle of oil after it cracks the bendix cover!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By cal clements, athens, georgia on Monday, July 02, 2012 - 11:46 am:

thanks everyone. and yes, dan, that was me with the stuck starter the other day. i appreciate, norm, your thought on looking into it now, given the possibility of parts getting into the crankcase. indeed, it is a dickens to get those screws out given the tight quarters.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tony Bowker on Tuesday, July 03, 2012 - 12:19 am:

If you are careful you can leave the screw on the inside of the engine in place, just undo a few turns, completely remove the other three screws and with a little fiddling the cover will come off. Similarly you can leave the screw in position when replacing the bendix cover. It's a little messy but MUCH easier than replacing the inner screw with the cover in place.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Tuesday, July 03, 2012 - 12:42 am:

In answer to Roger's cue, here are the first Model T parts every new owner should buy.


The Model T is simple but different. Things are not always put together as you might expect, and the books can save you a lot of grief, hassle, and expense.


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