I have acquired a T engine that is mounted on a cart with steel wheels. It has a flat belt attachment on the rear. The engine serial number shows it as Oct/1927. The engine has factory plates over the starter and generator holes. The valve cover is solid with no hole for a throttle rod. Also between #2 and #3 cylinder the casting is not cut-out for the throttle rod. There is also a well made rod that is mounted on the frame of the cart that goes to the timer. Did Ford sell T engines as stationary engines? I know nothing about vaporizer carb set-ups. Did they have a different throttle rod set-up not needing the hole in the block?
The vaporizer (in the car) has a rod which passes above the engine - over the rear cylinder. No need for holes anywhere,
Larry,
Can you post picture of the engine from various angles?
It would be interesting to see.
The improved engine most likely had a vaporizer carb setup which didn't require a hole and throttle rod through the block. People wishing to use a regular carb would knock out the thin metal there and install the linkage as done in previous years.
The linkage for the vaporizer setup ran over the cylinder head.
You can probably find oodles of photos by doing a search in google such as this:
http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&safe=off&q=%22model%20t%22%20vaporizer &um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=XZL4T9apBoa4rQGEwcyLCQ&biw=1036 &bih=783&sei=X5L4T_78EYrMrQHQvqGLCQ
If'n it don't show up as a contiguous link, just copy and paste the entire thing into your browser address bar and hit ENTER.
Garnet
The rebuilt short block that I am installing in my grandfather's 27 coupe was also, reportedly by the seller, a one time stationary engine from Montana. It saw a lot of use because when I got it, it was already so much over .080 that I had no choice but to sleeve it back to standard. The serial number stamped on it, didn't match anything Ford stamped at the factory. What is your engine's number (if it has one).
Larry, I don't know if Ford sold engines for use as stationary engines or not, but I doubt it. Most likely they were sold to companies that specialized in converting them for stationary use. JMHO. Dave
There used to be a lot of stationary T motors on Combines in Eastern Colorado. They were always good motors because they were only used during harvest time. The combines were pulled by horses or tractors but the combine itself was powered by the engines. T engines were also used on the grain elevaters to run the belts. Where I grew upin the mountains they were also used to power saws.
Dave, I think it was Stan Howe that said in a thread about Waukesha heads that they were used exclusively on T motors on at least one make of agricultural combines, so you're confirming that they were. My block came from Butte, Montana. Could have been used on anything that you mentioned. It never had the center web opened.
Larry, HOLT used a T Ford engine on some of their combines. The one I found was fired by a magneto driven from the back of the govener which was where the generator would be. It had a power takeof clutch and a solid flywheel that is 2" thick and really heavy. It has a cast iron pan and it had the vaporizor carb on it. The flywheel and clutch were wet from engine oil. It had a standard head on it. It was crank start as no starter provisions and with the magneto , no battery was needed. Jim
" The engine serial number shows it as Oct/1927".
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Model T 'car' production end in May 27?
Yes Dennis, but engine assembly continued later.
The last Model T engine was assembled on August 4, 1941. A total of 169,856 engines were built after the last Model T was assembled in Dearborn.