Old tire mounting stand

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob McDonald-Federal Way, Wa. on Sunday, July 15, 2012 - 06:51 pm:

I can't find my post on this subject, I believe it was lost when forum went down last time.
Anyway it dose work easier than working on the floor or on saw horses. I still didn't find the correct tire irons and the patent drawings that someone posted for me are gone also, please post again. I made a wheel to hold the rim for 30 X 3.5 and will make one for the 21,s later.

Bob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By keith g barrier on Sunday, July 15, 2012 - 07:15 pm:

Great job Bob!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Putnam, Bluffton, Ohio on Sunday, July 15, 2012 - 07:50 pm:

Bob: How about a video of the tire mounting process?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By A. J. "Art" Bell on Monday, July 16, 2012 - 01:38 am:

Hi Bob

Not sure if I posted all four of the following in the missing post, but I still had these on my scratch sheet.
Hope they help.

Gilbert E. Coats
Fort Dodge, Iowa
Wheel Supporting and Clamping Apparatus
Patent number: 2895519
Filing date: Jul 25, 1956
Issue date: Jul 21, 1959
http://tinyurl.com/74c9zln

Gilbert E. Coats
Fort Dodge
Iowa
Tire Bead Breaking Apparatus
Patent number: 2842191
Filing date: Apr 18, 1955
Issue date: Jul 8, 1958
http://tinyurl.com/7gkk6g9


Patent number: 3008512
Filing date: Sep 23, 1959
Issue date: Nov 14, 1961
Elmer J. Strang and Ray A. Scott
Fort Dodge, Iowa
Tire Bead seating and Inflating
Patent number: 3736975
Filing date: Sep 10, 1971
Issue date: Jun 5, 1973
http://tinyurl.com/7mn6wr9

Elmer J. Strang and Ray A. Scott
Fort Dodge, Iowa
Tire Changing Tool
Patent number: 3247883
Filing date: Feb 13, 1964
Issue date: Apr 26, 1966
http://tinyurl.com/876qkwr


Regards
Art


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By A. J. "Art" Bell on Monday, July 16, 2012 - 01:51 am:

Whoops - A closer look would indicate the above were some of the patents that I found and did not post.
I usually 'COPY and paste' from my worksheet, but must have 'CUT and paste' on the original post.
Will redo my search and post the correct ones ASAP.

Regards
Art


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob McDonald-Federal Way, Wa. on Monday, July 16, 2012 - 10:34 am:

Thanks Art

The one you posted before was dated applied 1947 and issued 1950 ( I think ) and it was a Coats design. Coats Co. still around but the younger gen. didn't know anything except the new ones. I will need to find on old one or parts sitting some where or I'll need to try and make one.
Thanks for your help.

Jack
I'm not up on videos, still in old school mode
but did stumble in to posting still pictures (
non talkies ) Grin

Bob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Monday, July 16, 2012 - 10:40 am:

Where can I get one?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By A. J. "Art" Bell on Monday, July 16, 2012 - 01:17 pm:

Gilbert E. Coats
Fort Dodge, Iowa
Tire Changing Stand with Rotatable Tool Supporting Shaft
Patent number: 2505172
Filing date: May 8, 1947
Issue date: Apr 25, 1950
http://tinyurl.com/7tyxdb4


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob McDonald-Federal Way, Wa. on Monday, July 16, 2012 - 03:20 pm:

Jeff

Check with all of the small towns around you
in your area there should be many and old gas stations also. Mine was given to me by a collector of auto things from old logging areas
around Wa. If you find the tools that go with it ( extra ) let me know. Good luck,there out there.
Check Arts last patent post to see what the tools look like. Afret getting the hang of things
I mounted 4 tires in under 3 hrs.


Bob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By A. J. "Art" Bell on Monday, July 16, 2012 - 04:40 pm:

Hey Steve - just follow the blue brick road and you can have the one setting in my back drive.
It's missing all the parts as well.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aaron Griffey, Hayward Ca. on Tuesday, July 17, 2012 - 11:04 am:

I fought with an exact tire machine in St. Paul for a few years.
There are three tools missing in the picture.

There is a tubular bar that bends in the middle and has a loop at one end to go over the center pillar with a curved piece hanging down to break the top bead. It is much on the order of the one on the bottom to break the bottom bead that you pull up on (a back breaking job)..
Then there is a 4 foot long bar with a roller on one end that you use to pry the top bead over the rim and rotate around using the the pillar as a fulcrum and using the little roller to roll the bead off the rim all the way around. The roller keeps the tool from tearing the tire bead and makes it easier to use.
Maybe the same bar has a small Y shape on the other end to put the new tire back on the rim.
One side of the Y is bigger so you can put both beads on at once if it is a tubeless tire.
So maybe actually two tools missing.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aaron Griffey, Hayward Ca. on Tuesday, July 17, 2012 - 11:11 am:

You can mount the wheel and tire upside down and break the bottom bead by pulling up on the bead breaker, then turn the wheel over to break the other bead.
A four foot piece of 1 1/4 inch pipe flattened on one end could be used to pry the tire off the rim by pulling it around, use the center pillar to pry against. A liquid soap & water mixture or any silicone lube helps a lot.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aaron Griffey, Hayward Ca. on Tuesday, July 17, 2012 - 11:16 am:

Ours was not bolted down.
You can use a 6 foot diameter iron rod hoop with four flat iron cross spokes to bolt the tire machine to.
That way you don't need a lot of room to use the machine. It can be moved out into the driveway or under a shade tree.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aaron Griffey, Hayward Ca. on Tuesday, July 17, 2012 - 11:19 am:

The wheel and tire in the picture is not going to work on that tire machine anyway. That is not a drop-center rim.
That machine pictured will only work for a drop-center rim.
You don't need a tire machine for a split rim.


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