Please help ID model year of this strange Model T

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Kriegel on Tuesday, July 17, 2012 - 02:41 pm:

This is indeed a strange Model T

It is my understanding Ford did not make pickup trucks so this is (I am assuming) a Model T made of different parts

The ID on the engine block is 4396663 which corresponds to September 1920

It seems the fenders are correct for 1920?

However I am puzzled by the cab

Also very strange, it has been converted to electric dive. Does about 20 MPH ON BATTERIES.
IT is marked with lettering

Woodstock Illinois

Why would someone convert it to electric vs fix and tune up a complete engine? Everything is there, carb, starter, generator etc.

STRANGE Model T


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace, North FL on Tuesday, July 17, 2012 - 02:55 pm:

David

Agree, that T was made up of parts, the body seems to be T coupe, parts probably assembled to make it run. The fenders don't have the valance of the later '24-'25, where the fenders meet those years apron under the radiator, so that they work for a '20. The golf cart motor and batteries may have been a thing the builder wanted to use...can't explain.

You posted on this last year, seems someone around Woodstock could give you more info?

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/257047/259224.html


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Kriegel on Tuesday, July 17, 2012 - 03:37 pm:

You know Dan I posted a reward on craigslist on the Woodstock Illinois internet site. No answer. I will post another reward for info on the builder. i am a great believer in putting together what history we can discover on each car, and place it in a zip lock bag under the seat for future owners.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Eagle Ida Fls on Tuesday, July 17, 2012 - 04:02 pm:

It is a typical '17-22 Coupe with probably a homemade bed on the back. Without metal covering on the pillars or upper window posts it's more likely earlier like '17 to 20. The other coupe guys could tell you for sure. Suicide doors went away in 1923.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Eagle Ida Fls on Tuesday, July 17, 2012 - 04:11 pm:



I think this picture was on ebay or somewhere. looks like the same vehicle. Very possible it is a 1920.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By William L Vanderburg on Tuesday, July 17, 2012 - 04:40 pm:

This is the one that runs on golf cart batteries, and doesn't even have the drive shaft connected to the engine.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Vince M on Tuesday, July 17, 2012 - 05:54 pm:

Kind of like having an E-timer or true fire in your car... :-)


Vince M


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith on Tuesday, July 17, 2012 - 06:39 pm:

Judging by the wood and door handles, I'd say it's a 1921.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace, North FL on Tuesday, July 17, 2012 - 10:14 pm:

David

Just by off chance, contact the Woodstock Opera house or other performing arts in that city, perhaps that coupe was made for stage production, no gas, quiet electric, safe for indoor stage shows?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Tuesday, July 17, 2012 - 11:48 pm:

That was on eBad a year or two ago. If I recall correctly, the engine was blown, and a bad job of installing a golf cart type motor. It sold cheap. If you cannot find any significant history to it, I would very much recommend a decent restoration to a proper coupe. The correct trunk should be fairly easy to make from photos and measurements of a good one. It would be much more desirable that way.
By the way, 1917 coupes were a one year only very different body with removable door pillars. I may be wrong, but I have heard that 1918s were a little different also. 1919 through 1923 had basically the same body with a number of minor differences. That wood should be painted black. In 1923, were coupe wood covered in metal as the sedans were?
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


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