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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By michael grady on Thursday, July 19, 2012 - 07:06 pm:

all...

I was just composing a question about how the heck to fit these new perch bearing into the holes in the perches. I was sure the old bearings were no longer in there.

I'm trying to install the correct shackles for the 16 touring.

However, when I took a closeup of the perch to show what was up...here's what I noticed in the photo....perch 1

Looks like the old bearing may still be in the way, eh?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John P. Steele, Montana on Thursday, July 19, 2012 - 07:15 pm:

It looks to me like the bushing is in there. Hold a bushing up to it and you will no right away whether it is in there or not. They make a bushing driver to remove old bushings or you can get by using an old socket of the appropriate size. Bushings are cheap and if your using new shackles I would use new bushings.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By michael grady on Thursday, July 19, 2012 - 07:19 pm:

yep, I'm pretty sure it's still in there. I've tried the driver...off to HD to pick up a hack saw and will add some heat this pm!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john kuehn on Thursday, July 19, 2012 - 07:57 pm:

Good idea on using the heat Michael. Heat the inside of the perch so the heat will be on the bushing.
Let cool and the drive out.
It works almost all the time.
The same goes for the rear spring bushings also when they are seized for many many years.
Good luck.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Herb Iffrig on Thursday, July 19, 2012 - 08:08 pm:

Michael tell us about that leaf spring in the picture. Doe's it have a shim under it?

Herb


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By michael grady on Friday, July 20, 2012 - 12:04 am:

Got the bushing out tonight with lots of work, and heat...all is well....will add photos tomorrow on the other thread.

Herb...the shim is just a drop of POR 15 then ran in when I painted the new front leaf spring.

Michael


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fred Wicker on Friday, July 20, 2012 - 06:31 am:

Bushing removal tip....Thread a Tap into Bushing,take a punch and hit the tap from inside the bushing. Bushing will come right out.
Wick


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve McClelland on Saturday, July 21, 2012 - 01:06 am:

Michael
No easy way to get them out, I'm sure everyone has there method I use a small flat blade screw driver (no handle) and a hammer get it positoned right at the seam of the bushing and perch then I drive it through a couple times top and bottom done in about 15 min.
Install the new bushing I file a small bevel on one end of the new bushing tap it in just enough with my hammer handle to hold it , now a couple drops of oil then I push it home with my c-clamp and a couple small wood blocks of oak. I don't like to use heat unless I have no other option....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bud Holzschuh - Panama City, FL on Saturday, July 21, 2012 - 10:15 am:

I use the same method that Steve does, but first I cut the bushing with a hacksaw. Then i use the screwdriver next to the cut so that the bushing tends to curl up and drop out.

schuh


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Saturday, July 21, 2012 - 10:49 am:

Ditto what Bud says. They are usually worn through on the weight bearing side so if you cut halfway through the top you can often knock the remains of the bushing out with a small chisel.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Saturday, July 21, 2012 - 03:03 pm:

I have also used a hack saw to aid in the removal of bushings. But, please be careful to not cut even one bit too much. You don't want this to happen.



Drive carefully, and enjoy


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Saturday, July 21, 2012 - 03:09 pm:

By the way, I didn't do that. And neither did the current owner. The damage was done many years ago by a long passed owner.
W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Saturday, July 21, 2012 - 05:11 pm:

That's why I said to cut half way through the bushing.


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