Help needed to ID wheels

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2012: Help needed to ID wheels
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By bill clemons on Sunday, July 22, 2012 - 10:56 am:

I picked up an old homemade trailer today that has a model T axle under it (welded spindles). It has a pair of 3.00X18 motorcycle style rims laced to heavy duty spool hubs that fit the model T spindles like they were made for it. Can anybody tell me anything about them or ever seen a set before ? The spokes are threaded with nipples, not welded in like most old car wheels.
Thankswheel pic


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Eagle Ida Fls on Sunday, July 22, 2012 - 11:59 am:



It may be a Harley wheel ('30s or 40's) and may have some value.
I'm sure there are some web sites out there.
Rich


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By bill clemons on Sunday, July 22, 2012 - 01:03 pm:

No, I'm a Harley mechanic and they defineatly didn't come off any motorcycle unless perhaps as a side car wheel. Motorcycle hubs have symetrical bearings as a rule except for a few rare examples where the drive side is equipped with a larger bearing but these hubs have no provision for sprocket or brake drum attachment. If you look closely at the pic you can see the inboard bearing is larger in od than the outboard bearing. Like I said earlier they fit the stock model T spindles perfectly and I doubt that would happen with a re-purposed wheel.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By bill clemons on Sunday, July 22, 2012 - 01:05 pm:

Here's a shot of the insideinside


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By bill clemons on Sunday, July 22, 2012 - 02:54 pm:

better pic of the hubhub


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerome Hoffman, Hays KS on Sunday, July 22, 2012 - 03:30 pm:

Bill the wheels may have come on the axle you have, a picture of more of the axle might help. Looks non-ford to me.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By bill clemons on Monday, July 23, 2012 - 12:37 am:

Here's a shot of the whole axleaxle


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Page on Monday, July 23, 2012 - 02:05 am:

Something looks odd about that axle. I don't think it is a Model T axle.
Here are some axle variations posted by Hap Tucker in a previous posting. This was pointing out the differences in the English Drop Frame Axles and the standard USA Axles. If you look at the shape of the forging on the above axle and the alignment it is very different.
It is hard to tell from the photo but it also dosen't appear to have the bosses for the spring perches as well. Regards, John


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By bill clemons on Monday, July 23, 2012 - 12:33 pm:

Thanks John, I have to agree that it is not a Model T axle. I can't get over the idea though that these wheels are the stock units that belong on it. They just fit too well. I noticed that they are drilled and tapped for a dust cover over the spindle nut so they are defineately either automotive or motorcycle side car wheels.
Thanks to everyone who responded, the hunt goes on :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Herb Iffrig on Tuesday, July 24, 2012 - 03:43 pm:

Even tho the wheels look too substantial, looking at the axle that they are on I want to say you should research some of the cycle cars that are pre WW1.

Herb


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