Thanks to all that responded to my last post. As my search continues i need to ask how tall a closed car such as a tudor is, just so i know if it will fit in the garage. So i guess ground to top of roof is what i need to know. I have looked in the older posts but didn't find anything. thank you
A 27 tudor is reported to be 6'2' tall, from:
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/179374/218813.html?1308635329
Here is more dscussion. A 24 Fordor is 6'11" (83")
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/118802/171433.html?1290175796
Jim
I just went out to my garage and measured our 1925 Fordor. It is 78 inches high.
Car parks tend to have a horizontal barrier at 2.1 meters. Given that 79 inches is almost 2 meters, my Fordor will easily go underneath these barriers. However I always stop and check before entry. The good carpenter will always measure twice and cut once!
I measured a '23 Tudor sedan at the LB Swap to see if it would fit in my trailer. It was real close to the 78 inches William just noted. Darn
The newer doors on my HB house are at 84" or 7 feet high.
I just got similar measurements on a 1923 Fordor: between 77" and 78". BUT I would expect some variation depending on which wheels and tires a car is wearing. If I'm building a garage or a shed I want to make it at least 84" just to be on the safe side.
Oh ok guys I appreciate the trouble you went through for me. My garage opening is 81-82" and I think I have seen the post Jim listed before. That's what got me thinking if I find one it would be pretty devastating to find out it wouldn't fit. I will just have to check for protrusions from the garage door. Thanks again
Accessory shock eliminators can make a considerable difference. They usually make a car taller. Know what you garage will allow and measure cars you check into. My coupe clears my garage door with about two inches to spare.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2
Ok I have located 2 cars I might be interested in. One is a 1925 tudor and the other is a touring but not sure of the year. The touring I found when I decided to pound the pavement with a few clubs listed here and on the international site. After speaking with one gentleman he knew of the touring and said he didn't know the owner very well but he knew the guys that worked on it for him. He wants 1000.00 more than the tudor I found. The gentleman said performance isn't near as good in a tudor. I'm looking for some pros and cons I guess before I make a final decision. The tudor pictures I received are not really that great but he said that it was from kansas and has a lot of old paint. Not sure if original but old.it has 5 new firestone tires a new bergs radiator, new old stock axle as the one that was on it was bent with 25 cast in it, new wheel bearings , some new wiring, and im sure i misses alot. I was told to look for water damage and listen to it run any more advice would be appreciated. I do not really have a preference either way or I would have a roadster. But Either of these would be more practical for my needs. Only problem is they are 5 hrs in opposite directions from me. Thanks again for all the help and advice. -- shane
I always say if you are only going to own one Model T it should be a touring. Here's why:
I agree Royce.
Regards,
Scott
As a Touring is lighter 20 horses go farther than with a Tudor or Fordor.
My '19 Touring is fairly snappy but I can't complain about the '27 Tudor either.
If I HAD to choose which I prefer driving I'd have to do a LOT of thinking....... ;)
I can't say I disagree royce but I'm just not sure. I am from pa and one thing that I was thinking was spring and fall when its cool the tudor would be nice but it might be an oven in the summer?? I don't know. I do have 2 girls although 1 would be all for going for a ride I thing the older one wouldn't want to be caught dead in a T. I just want to find the right car for me and I'm not quite sure either way. I could see myself driving with a little snow if the roads were good. But I like the touring too. The tudor has a new carb and a aluminum manifold and a new head gasket too. Is there anything I should be concerned about with the parts replacement?? Possible problems??? He told me it didn't get hot but was warmer than he liked so he replaced the radiator
Here's your solution: Buy both, you'll have the touring for fun, and the tudor when it's raining or when winter takes over.
Royce is correct, if you can only have one Model T, a touring is the way to go. I have had a 27 Coupe since 1957, and a 24 Touring since 1993. The touring has seen many more miles and tours since its acquisition than the coupe. With side curtains, rain and cold are endurable.
For a closed car, I think the 26/27 Tudors with the virtually all steel bodies are the best.
I have a 1926 coupe and a 1926 Fordor (which used a '25 fordor body). The height can vary depending on where the measurement is taken, the size of tires (some T's have the wrong sized tires for the year), if the tires are full, how thick the roof kit frame is and how much crown there is to the roof.
On my coupe, which has a replacement roof with very little crown and which was measured at the edge of the roof, the height is 6'- 0 1/2" (72 1/2").
On my Fordor, which has the original roof with a 1 1/2" crown in the middle, the roof, measured at the edge, is 6'-3 1/2" (75 1/2") and with a 1 1/2" crown makes the overall height at the center 6'-5" (77").
Jim Patrick
Here are a few pictures of the tudor the seller sent me. I know how you like to look at pictures. The wheels are wrong on the car i guess. He said it has 30 x 3 1/2 tires on it and that he changed the wheels because he liked these wheels better. It doesn"t look too bad to me but I am no expert on these cars. It appears that the interior next to the drivers door is torn but he said the seats are decent and there are covers over them I believe. Please advise me if you see anything else wrong with the car. I dont expect a perfect car, but just knowing what may be incorrect would help. I looked and found that the interior kit it like $2000. Thanks again guys --shane
Shane Lockard:
Many of the ladies prefer closed cars because of rain and wind. Ask your wife to keep her happy with your new hobby.
Also Hassler shocks will raise the car a couple of inches. What is the height of your garage door. An inch or two will make a difference.
If you get to the point of going to see the car in person, tap the lower portions of the body (doors, cowls and body) all around the car and listen for changes in sound or use a small magnet to check for bondo or body repairs. The thicker repairs will cause a change in sound or a reduction in magnet pull. Nothing wrong with having body repairs so long as the car is not being sold on the premise that the body is solid with no repairs. If a body is repaired properly, it can last forever, but if the panel is not repaired properly prior to the application of filler, the repair may only last for a short time. One clue to the fact that a body may have been repaired in order to sell the car is if the paint job appears to have been applied in haste with an aerosol can or if the finish is dull and unremarkable. Jim Patrick
thanks Jim that was something i thought about (the dull finish) when I saw the last picture I posted until I realized it was the garage floor. This one may actually be on my list to go check out this weekend. It is about 5 to 6 hours away, but it is only 2 hours beyond my brother in laws and my wife wants to go visit anyway. So i guess i can make it a multi purpose trip and spend the night with family
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Great Shane. It is difficult to get a true idea of how a finish really looks from a photograph taken indoors in dim lighting. About the only way to get a true idea of how the finish looks is to have the owner push the car outside and take a picture in the sunlight with something reflective in the background that will reflect off the finish. I hope it is what you are looking for. Drive carefully and have fun. Jim Patrick
Shane, You're going to like it, but, don't commit until you look at the touring. Open cars are worth more because of demand--more people like them! I never seem to find anything local either--I went from FL to PA to get my 15 touring!