Not a good start

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2012: Not a good start
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Patterson, OZ on Thursday, July 26, 2012 - 02:32 am:

Just got a T engine home and pulled the head off the thing and this is what I found.


I can only just see where #3's valves might be.
It stinks to high heaven....I figured I'm about to find a dead rat a little further inside somewhere.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Thode Chehalis Washington on Thursday, July 26, 2012 - 02:56 am:

Looks like it has been in the bottom of a lake for a century. Maybe it would make a good boat anchor.
Jim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Will,, Trenton,,,New Jersey on Thursday, July 26, 2012 - 03:17 am:

Now tell us the truth,,, That was a boat anchor now wasnt it? I'v seen a few bad engines but this one sets the bar a little higher


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By kep NZ on Thursday, July 26, 2012 - 05:08 am:

Believe it or not mine was slightly worse.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Halpin on Thursday, July 26, 2012 - 05:46 am:

I'm afraid that one is going to need some work.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Danial - Veneta OR US Earth Solar System on Thursday, July 26, 2012 - 05:47 am:

Bead the hell out of it, dip it, hone the cylinders and use a boat-load of RTV when you put it back together.

And then take it for a drive...grin...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve in Tennessee on Thursday, July 26, 2012 - 10:15 am:

The brake pedal looks good.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Patrick on Thursday, July 26, 2012 - 10:22 am:

It looks like the head gasket did a good job of keeping water from between the head and block.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Thursday, July 26, 2012 - 10:55 am:

If this engine was stored outside with the spark plugs removed, the indentations at the spark plug holes will act as funnels letting rainwater in. That water has nowhere to go, and so the cylinders rust. All might not be lost. If you can get it apart after soaking it with penetration oil, you can better see if it is useable. A good engine rebuilder could help you determine what it would cost to get it into good running order. It would at least need new valves, maybe insert valve seats and a rebore with new pistons. top of block re-surfaced. Maybe more.
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Nicholas Lingg - Tarboro, NC on Thursday, July 26, 2012 - 11:29 am:

Break the top out of the pistons. Then take a 1/4 x 1 1/2 flat piece of steel, place it under the top ring groove from the underside and drive the piston out. The valves will have to be machined out. Then off to a good engine rebuilder and it's good as new!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Charlie B actually in Toms River N.J. on Thursday, July 26, 2012 - 12:53 pm:

"Ya gotta know when to hold em and know when to fold em". Are you into Origami at all? You have some folding to do.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mack Cole ---- Earth on Thursday, July 26, 2012 - 12:59 pm:

Right hand drive? Wow.
It can be fixed,cheaper than a good 1 can be shipped way off down there.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Semprez-Templeton, CA on Thursday, July 26, 2012 - 01:08 pm:

Very nice patina! I gave an engine to a friend that looked like that one. He had it rebuilt and running in about 3 months time!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Patrick on Thursday, July 26, 2012 - 01:17 pm:

Any way you look at it, the block is going to require the services of a good machine shop. Cylinder sleeves, valve seat inserts, head and block resurfacing, etc., so, you might as well just find the most competent and reliable one you can and hand it over to them to dismantle and give you a quote on repairing.

To save on money, you can most likely remove the rust from the block yourself before handing it over to them. I've seen some threads on bulk removal of rust using molasses and electrolysis with a garbage can as a container.

While waiting for the block to come back, you could remove the rust from the transmission and repair that yourself. If it is unrepairable, there are plenty of good transmissions that come up for sale on ebay that you could purchase for your engine. Jim Patrick


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Carl Sorenson-Lake Arrowhead,CA on Thursday, July 26, 2012 - 03:29 pm:

So ....the add said "Runs Good just needs a tune-up" Right ???


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Derek Kiefer - Mantorville, MN on Thursday, July 26, 2012 - 04:02 pm:

"Ran when parked"


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By MARK BASLER on Thursday, July 26, 2012 - 04:16 pm:

Recon it's got a cracked block too?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Stewart -Calif. on Thursday, July 26, 2012 - 04:34 pm:

A little bit of WD 40 and some Liquid Wrench and you will have it back up and running in a T in no time.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Patterson, OZ on Thursday, July 26, 2012 - 04:38 pm:

Even though its not the block I'm hoping to use,I haven't given up on the thing, not by a long shot. I'll keep it as a backup....so long as it checks out OK once its completely naked.
I just figured you'd all like to see the pics.
Cheers,
Rob


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