Just got my 26 barn find running after 40 years idle, and runs great. went to back out of garage and it stalls engine. No low or high either. Any ideas before I look into it manana. thanks tom
Does low kill the engine too? Will it roll? Is the parking brake on or pulled back halfway? You won't have high with it on. It doesn't sound like the clutch disks are stuck since you were able to start it. Reverse and low both go through the triple gears so I'm thinking the trans is locked up. Perhaps it was assembled incorrectly and the previous owner just parked it.
starts and rolls just fine. Car was imported from New Zealand in 76 and really does not look like it has ever been touched tom
If you can start the car with all wheels on ground sounds like you have neutral. Maybe your parking brakes are not releasing all the way. High might stall the car if you are trying to move it from a stand still. Bands have nothing to do with high. Could be you are tromping on the low or reverse without enough engine speed.
Take the inspection cover off the transmission and check to see if all three sets of triple gears can be moved. There is really no way to install them wrong.
There most certainly is! That's why they're marked--Just like the cam and crank can be off-time.
The gears will only work in one of three locations. The mark identifies one of the locations. One tooth off and the trans will lock up in low and reverse.
Hey Ken,
I find it hard to believe that the gears need to be timed, they should be symmetrical, The reason the cam has to be timed with the crank is to have the valves opening and closing at the right time. The gears should be simple planetary gears and be able to revolve no matter how they are assembled, please explain why they must be timed.
Best
Gus
1st early triple gear did not have a timing mark. You are working with 3 different sized gears on the transmission drums each with a different tooth count, same with the triple gears. One tooth off on one gear puts it out of alignment with the other two. Each triple gear must have the same center to center of the center hole. It does not mater which position the gears are as long as they maintain an equilateral triangle. That is part of the reason there is a witness mark on the drive gear,if it's not put back on you can't get the triple gears to be in the right place. The alignment mark shown was added to make it easier and quicker to set the triple gears in the correct place. It's not that the gears are timed as much as it's getting them in the proper place to fit on the pins. One tooth off and you would not be able to fit them to the pins.
OK, that is what I thought, I would expect that it would take a hammer to install the incorrectly, but a Ford factory trained technician is qualified to use a large hammer at our local Ford dealership.
Best
Gus
Tom,
it's simple. Your car is homesick. It needs to come back to New Zealand.
I have a nice dry garage for it to live in.....
Once it's back here, I'm sure it will stop feeling nervous and the knot in it's tummy will go away and it will back up in reverse no problem. :-)
Regards,
Bede
Each of the three gears on the triple gear assembly have a tooth count evenly divisible by three. The gears must be assembled in one of the three positions that allows there to be a tooth (or maybe it's a space between teeth) on each of the three to be in line. I also believe they can be assembled incorrectly without the use of a hammer. However, that is not the problem here if there is a neutral. Triple gears out of time will bind the transmission, effectively leaving you in High all the time.
Hal,
care to elaborate on your statement, 'I also believe they can be assembled incorrectly without the use of a hammer'.
It was suggested above that it would take a hammer to assemble a tranny if the triple gears were out of time. I'm saying that i'm not so sure that is true.
shipping to New Zealand may not be a bad idea, but I kinda like the RHD. So I have neutral, no low or high and it rolls freely but still stalls engine when trying to engage reverse, any more ideas? thanks tom
I have a friend that had the same issue. It turned out to be a loose triple gear pin. For what ever reason it would go into low and high but in reverse stalled the engine. He said that on inspection while going forward the pin had enough material on the flywheel to keep it some what straight but in reverse the hole was wallowed out where the pin was in enough to move and cause a bind in the gears. He replaced the transmission and all was well. Hope thats not it for your sake but further investigation may result in the same finding. Respectfully, John