Installing cheap parts: My two cents

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Sunday, July 29, 2012 - 01:42 pm:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Lee Frost Pierce on Sunday, July 29, 2012 - 01:58 pm:

WE just did that on a friends T worked real well
It took the play out of the steering wheel


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Sunday, July 29, 2012 - 01:59 pm:

Those look to be copper clad zinc, Steve. Is zinc as good at this job as the old pure copper pennies?

rdr


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Sunday, July 29, 2012 - 02:28 pm:

I assume zinc won't last for years, but the price is right. If they wear out too fast to suit me, I'll try some steel washers.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Thode Chehalis Washington on Sunday, July 29, 2012 - 02:30 pm:

May not be as cheap as it appears on the surface. Defacing US coins could get you fined and imprisoned up to five years. I wonder if anyone has ever been charged with that? Probably depends on the scale of the offense.

Jim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Doug Money - Braidwood, IL on Sunday, July 29, 2012 - 02:30 pm:

Yes Ralph, they are high in ZDDP! :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wes Nelson ........Bucyrus, MO on Sunday, July 29, 2012 - 02:39 pm:

At least Steve got his two cents worth...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By A. J. "Art" Bell on Sunday, July 29, 2012 - 03:15 pm:

The Canadian version of those replacement parts are no longer being made.
We are now officially ”penniless” or would that be “centsless”
(but no need to worry - those of us that managed to put a little something
away for our old age still have a jar or two of them left)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George Clipner-Los Angeles on Sunday, July 29, 2012 - 04:36 pm:

Steve, will you be dishing those cents ???
Martin needs to do the same thing.
George n L.A.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Martin Vowell, Lake View Terrace, CA on Sunday, July 29, 2012 - 06:31 pm:

We're both be in trouble then Steve,
you for 2 cents and I'm in for 2 cents
plus those 3, 1922 Denver minted, buffalo head nickels I used for freeze plugs.
Woo I feel so lawless.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Scott Gilham Bellflower Ca. on Sunday, July 29, 2012 - 07:31 pm:

Just my 2 cent's. The government is broke, they can't afford to chase you down for crushing pennies that cost 3 cent's to make.....:-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Noel D. Chicoine, MD, Pierre, SD on Sunday, July 29, 2012 - 07:46 pm:

I've dished a few pennies for this use with a ball peen hammer and a socket.
Scott, the government isn't broke. they own the printing presses and can just make more money, since it isn't based on silver or gold anymore. California, on the other hand, IS broke! :-)
Noel


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Monday, July 30, 2012 - 02:33 am:

The zinc pennies will not last as long as an older copper penny.
Jim T,
I believe that law applies to "U S currency". Legally, neither the penny nor the nickel are "currency". Although, since I am not a lawyer, legally I cannot give out that advice. So maybe Chris will have to delete my posting.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fred Dimock, Newfields NH, USA on Monday, July 30, 2012 - 01:19 pm:

Scott - Be aware that the government is ignoring immigration, crime, and financial problems - but they WILL go after a poor bloke that defaces two pennies.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Thode Chehalis Washington on Monday, July 30, 2012 - 02:02 pm:

Wayne,
I'm not a lawyer either but sometimes I play one online just to point out some of the silliness we live under.

From USC, Title 18, Part 1, Chapter 17, § 331
Mutilation, diminution, and falsification of coins.
Whoever fraudulently alters, defaces, mutilates, impairs, diminishes, falsifies, scales, or lightens any of the coins coined at the mints of the United States, or any foreign coins which are by law made current or are in actual use or circulation as money within the United States;
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

Jim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Monday, July 30, 2012 - 02:12 pm:

Back in the 60s, word got around that Mexican Peso coins worked in the Chicago Toll Road coin acceptors. They issued stern warnings, which just publicized and encouraged the practice.

It really hurt the politicians' ill-gotten incomes.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fred Dimock, Newfields NH, USA on Monday, July 30, 2012 - 02:29 pm:

OH NO! I'm in trouble!

Don't tell the feds that I used to place pennies on the tracks to see how big (and thin) they got after being rolled on by a freight train or how we used the machine at Canabie Lake Park to squeeze a penny into a keep sake.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erich Bruckner, Vancouver, WA on Monday, July 30, 2012 - 03:34 pm:

Fred, I was thinking the same thing. Good old burlington northern helped us make "penny chips" on days when being a kid got boring. Some vibrated off the track before getting run over so we taped them to the track. Worked much better but often we had to search a bit to find them. Sorta hot to handle at first too.

I had no idea there were this many money mutilators (lawless heathens) in the T hobby.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aaron Griffey, Hayward Ca. on Monday, July 30, 2012 - 09:48 pm:

About 30 years ago a guy I know went back to Peru for a visit.
He said the hardware stores had bins full of coins with holes drilled in them.
The store keeper told him that was cheaper than buying washers because the money was so worthless.
Last week I bought some flat washers the size a a penny, they were 11 cents each.
An indication of what our money is worth.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Joe Van Evera on Monday, July 30, 2012 - 10:23 pm:

In the old "classic" movie, "COOL HAND LUKE," with Paul Neuman, a guy can be seen pounding on a quarter (1964 and before because of the silver content.) with a spoon to make a quarter ring. I've made a couple of dozen, and in fact, just helped my grandson make one this past week. You can see them on ebay all the time. I doubt it is illegal....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Doug Money - Braidwood, IL on Monday, July 30, 2012 - 11:20 pm:

When I was a kid a friend of our family used to make earrings out of mercury dimes. He used a tool to get rid of the background. They looked cool at the time.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Frank Harris from Long Beach & Big Bear on Tuesday, July 31, 2012 - 02:05 am:

Doug Money that was a topical jump in with names playing game. . . . You drill a tiny hole and slide a jeweler's saw blade into the hole. Then hold the dime in a vise and cut out what you don't want, a full set of two cost 20 cents to make plus the findings and a little silver solder and gas for the torch.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Tuesday, July 31, 2012 - 02:48 am:

Jim T,
Chapter and verse. I stand corrected.
So I could be in trouble for the dozen or so pennies I left on train tracks that ran right next to my High School. Also my small collection of machine squished penny souvenirs. I have a few old enough to show some image of a wheat tail on it. I wonder when those things first showed up at tourist spots?
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Tuesday, July 31, 2012 - 01:26 pm:

Somewhere I have a Liberty head nickel (pre-1913) that had been left on a rail.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Warren W. Mortensen on Saturday, August 04, 2012 - 12:20 pm:

I saw a zinc penny that cracked and part of it jammed the steering on the car. I suggest sticking with copper pennies.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Saturday, August 04, 2012 - 02:44 pm:

I use the back side of a 1/2" drive socket, which has a concave surface that is very close to the inside contour of the steering drag link end. A small ball peen hammer about the same diameter as the steering ball is clamped in the vise to provide a convex surface to form the inside.

A 1909 SVDB Lincoln cent is appropriate for the same year car, right?




Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Stewart -Calif. on Saturday, August 04, 2012 - 03:22 pm:

Ahaaaa. A 1909svdb cent? You could sale it and rebuild your engine and trannie ,and buy a new set of white tires. Use the rest for gas for a year. I have a 1914 Lincoln cent on the dash of my 14 Runabout.. Of course it is not a 1914 D.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john kuehn on Saturday, August 04, 2012 - 03:43 pm:

My 5 cents to the cause was a 87 Jefferson nickel.
I used it to replace a defective freeze plug and it worked just fine.
Buffalo nickels are pretty scarce so I used what was in my pocket. A pre 64 might be a little much since it has more silver in it. And besides the ones before 64 have a little more value and some of those such as a 55s? or maybe a 38s?, cant remember for sure which ones, brings a premium.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Saturday, August 04, 2012 - 04:29 pm:

To avoid zinc cents, you want 1857 through 1981. Both kinds, mostly copper and mostly zinc, were made in 1982.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Saturday, August 04, 2012 - 06:27 pm:

I've needed a 1909S VDB to complete my collection, since about 1955, when it was worth maybe $100. What's a collection without the S VDB worth today?

I also have a full set of Mercury dimes somewhere.

rdr


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Aldrich Orting Wa on Saturday, August 04, 2012 - 10:24 pm:

I envy your collection Rick. Between my "brother" and the movers (military move) I have nothing left. I once had a collection very similar but when I went to add a $5 Silver Certificate I discovered it was gone and along with it, years of collection memories.
I now only have a very few select pieces.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Sunday, August 05, 2012 - 09:23 am:

The key word in the law Jim quoted is probably "fraudulently."

fraud·u·lent (frôj-lnt)
adj.
1. Engaging in fraud; deceitful.
2. Characterized by, constituting, or gained by fraud: fraudulent business practices.

I don't think Steve used the pennies with any fraudulent or deceitful intent.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George_Cherry Hill NJ on Sunday, August 05, 2012 - 11:43 am:

Ralph,

I was a paper boy in the late 50's and early 60's. Each collection day I'd sort all the coins by type and year. Then compare the new samples to what was pressed into my blue books. If better, the best went in the book.

Never has an 09 S-VDB but...my nickle book, dime book, and quarter books were full and complete. Stopped being a paper boy about '63...but then my younger brother was going to the New York Worlds Fair in '64 and apparently figured he'd have pocket change for the day. Oh well...

Going back to another thread and what kids are interested in...I still set aside old coins as I came across them in a huge water bottle on a daily basis, then two water jugs, then 3. Never sorted them out, and when my kids came along as Gen X and Gen Y I tried the 'hey want to try coin collecting? Have a good start here!' THAT went absolutely no where! (but fortunately now both adults with their own families...one now has own T, and the other has already placed dibs on one of mine, helping me to work on that one only :-) )

But anyway, nice to know I have a stash of copper pennies and old nickles that can be servicable parts for a T :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Sunday, August 05, 2012 - 01:20 pm:

You can turn a 1913 T into a real high dollar item if you use a period correct V nickel for a freeze plug.


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