Is there another supplier that has the bronze?
BTW, the Langs catalog say bronze in the discription but the website says brass?
Andrew, I bought mine from Snyder's in Ohio.
Thanks for the response Bob, I just checked your recommendation and it is brass. T-2528
Same thing. More then likely came from same supplier. The term brass and bronze seem to get used, while not correct, interchangeably.
Brass and bronze are often used for the same alloy. When I cast up Model T Radiator caps( dogbones and wings) I used magnazine (sp) bronze. That alloy has a bright brass color and is excellent for many brass products. It has strength and is ductile.
Langs will never do you wrong,,, I have orded with Langs for many years and have never had a problem with them. Heck, Come to think of it,,, Other than my wheel spokes they have just about built my car
Andrew:
The ones Lang's sell are the ones that I have used with success and I am pretty sure they have been using the same source for many years but to be sure simply ask them. They are super folks to buy from.
As the other guys pointed out, people often call bronze brass. It's just like US cents. They were originally copper. They didn't wear well, so the mint changed to bronze, but people still called them copper. It's bronze that's used in bearings, bushings, and thrust washers.
I am not going there today!
They also have a place to ask questions on their web site catalog and I asked them to clarify which it was made from. I would think Bronze but when in doubt it is always good to clarify things.
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Try Bobs antique auto parts. He probably has them.
BRASS, BRONZE, WHO CARES? ANYTHING IS BETTER THAN BABBITT. THEY ALL COME FROM THE SAME PLACE,
SNYDER'S. BRASS HAS NEVER FAILED FOR ME IN FIFTY YEARS.
The ones received from Lang's last week are a dull looking, cast bronze or brass, the grooves show a dark cast like surface.
Others used in past years were obvious machined from bar stock with machined grooves. They seemed more like brass to me.
Depending upon specific alloys, (and I am not an expert in this field), bronze is about twice as strong as brass, and brass is about four times as strong as good Babbitt. Good Babbitt was strong enough for about fifty years and only becomes too weak after contamination results in corrosion.
Brass is way more corrosion resistant than Babbitt. Brass is plenty strong enough. Bronze will last a little longer. But why worry about an additional fifty years over two hundred years from now when you probably won't be able to get gas anyhow even if you were here to drive it?
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2
Some people call the old ones babbitt. Then others say no they are pot metal. Who cares just get those old ones out of there. I wouldn't use the roller thrust washers that are being made too many moving parts!
I have the bronze ones here in Central Minnesota
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We make them, Bob
Bob:
Not sure whether all of these come from you, but I bought these from Lang's. I have successfully installed these parts on 2 separate occasions and have 2 questions regarding the condition of them coming out of the packaging:
a) oil groove cores had sand in them that was evident inside the plastic packaging. If core sand is going to stick to the part, then machine it off or at least scrape the groove clean.
b) lathe finish both sides had excessive chatter, meaning that the precision thickness of the washer under load will decrease fast. Lot of effort goes into setting up one of these rearends, and this variable is neither helpful nor predictable.
These were technically simple enough issues that I took care of them myself, but this simple commercial part replacement should not need to involve a machinist IMO.
Not commenting to slam you or your product here Bob, just letting you know that these are reasonably avoidable issues that are present in at least some of these parts?
Regards,
Scott