I've been lurking here a while now, mostly in awe of the work put into the T cars and the beautiful cars that result.
I'm a heavy equiptment mechanic by trade and an antique tool collector for fun.
A chance find or 3 of old Ford tools lead me to want to build a T tool kit up for the collections. Of course I wanted it to be correct so I researched.
Almost all that research lead me to posts here, the knowledge base is amazing.
I'm currently making up '23 - '25 and a '26 - '27 tool pouches and have but a few tools so far to go in them when they are ready.
With time that will change.
Welcome, Brian. In 1974 I enjoyed a stay in your town for a month. One of the guys there called me El Méxicano because I drove like I knew where I was going.
The top wrench in your picture is #2335, for spark plugs and head bolts. I was using one earlier today. The version you have is 1914-1920.
Here's a long thread from last year on Model T tools:
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/179374/249390.html.
I got hooked on the T at about 12 when a gentleman let me explore his '24 doctor's coupe. Even letting me touch it and other classic car blasphemies! That stuck with me, I swore one day I would have one but that is not probable anymore. Conditions are not favorable to owning and restoring something like that now.
So now I am getting as close as I can and will have the tool kits at least.
The head wrench is a late socket style T-5393 with evidences of repaired dies. Moore drop Forge marked. The one DOE is probably tractor or A vintage while the other is T era.
Thanks to this forum I have a rather large photo file of Ford tools and probable dates to go on.
The rolls and pouches are still bit fuzzy though. I wonder if there was much consistancy in them after 1920. Materials and sizes seem to vary some.
I'm using black naugahyde because its about the closest I can get locally.
It will be slow going to finish any kits but that is what quests are about.
Brian
A little OT, guys, but I thought you might like to see pix I took in Cuernavaca, in March, 1961, the day after two college buddies and I climbed Popocatapetl.
That's Ixtaccihuatl on the left; Popo in center.
I'm not sure this pic is CV, or Veracruz, where we went the following week.
rdr
I was in Bustamante in the Summer of '66. I wouldn't show pictures of that place even if I had them. If you can imagine a movie set in the mid-1800s Mexico of a small village, that's what it was. I understand it's built up nice now and has paved roads and buildings. I guess it became a tourist stop but back then, it was the "Old West". I think that's what made the stay more enjoyable than the flashy tourist spots. A group of about 12 of us spent a week exploring a cave out side of there. We actually spent the week IN the cave. I doubt you can do that now. And yeah, we took nothing but memories and left nothing but footprints.
Brian,
If your local library, or a friend has "Model T Ford, the car that changed the world", by Bruce McCalley, look in the back of it. If I remember correctly, there are pictures as well as part numbers of Model T tools. It would make your quest a lot easier. Good luck.
Brian, as Steve mentioned, the spark plug wrench you have is for an earlier kit than 23. The two open ended spanners you show I suspect are for an A model kit.
Most T tools have a T part number cast into them. The only open ender I know of is T 1917 which is used to adjust the transmission bands. I put a photo of this one on a recent thread on flea market finds.
Hope this helps.
Allan from down under.
There is an official club and site for the tools. Google antique ford tools and you should get it - they are by far the best source.
forgot to add - www.fordtoolcollector.org
I have saved every clear pic of the tools in a file, I do see where my pathetic pickings are pretty mixed bag at the moment.
The bigger plan is a bunch of tool kits related to Ford and I do believe John's suggestions will be very helpful in getting the data refined.
The N series tractor, TT truck, A car and 3 styles of T car are the current list. I've cut the material for the two late T cars and the N tractor to date but need to get them sewn yet. The specs for the early T tool roll elude me yet and I do not have the tools to guess the pocket sizes from either.
I do have a few other odd Ford tools also not forum related. The N plow wrench is one.
The mechanic's shop tools are also slowly accumulating, I have the valve spring tool and the generator adjusting wrench in the mail right now. A buy on a socket style wrench is happening soon too. It has a 9/16 socket end on a nice machined handle. Definately early 20's but no name stamped in it.
Unrelated to T's at all, yeah I live in beautiful country under the shadow of Sr. Popocatapetl. As long as he has those big black clouds at his opening I feel pretty safe.
I do believe the building in Rick's 3rd picture is the Palacio de Cortez in Cuerny. Since that pic there has been a major dig in the area in front of it and many prehispanic carved stones turned up. The type that would have part of a major temple. They left a few big ones in the ground but uncovered and close to a walkway that gets you into the museum now. The statue has been moved, it would be 12 feet above a big hole now.
The museum hold a lot of early spanish relics as well as items from its own internal dig and the revolutionary period here.
As long as we're OT:
1961 was a calmer time in 17,880' elev Popo's life. As you know, Cortez' men climbed down into the crater to get sulfur for gunpowder.
Are people allowed to climb Popo now?
I scanned these slides just last year, and that was when I discovered the growths on them. These were taken with a 35mm, $13 mail order camera from a little outfit in Boston called Radio Shack, and it was all manual, of course.
rdr
No, they have the the summit blocked now. Only a few researchers and people of the monitoring crew have access.
We have almost daily emissions the last few years. Which is good because its venting the pressures.
We just finished watching the most fantastic program on PBS: "Mexico, the Royal Tour," in which President Felipe Calderon took some guy named Peter Greenberg on a breathtaking tour of Mexico last year.
It was on the new to us FNX, First Nations' eXperience channel, largely sponsored by the San Manuel Band of Native Americans, who have a casino near Palm Springs. They've also shown "A Wild American Forest" about the Klamath Siskiyou region of old growth forests. That was especially appealing to us, as we had just been there.
rdr