Unusual generator cut out?

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2012: Unusual generator cut out?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Housego (United Kingdom) on Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - 04:04 am:

I have only seen the round can type cut outs on generators but today I came across this generator with this different style cut out. Sure Ron the coil man or someone will know information on it? Possibly an early type or maybe an after market one, just be interested to know. Thanks. John.

Unusual generator cut out


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ron Patterson-Nicholasville, Kentucky on Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - 08:54 am:

John
Square cased reverse current relay type generator cutouts are very common. Most here in the USA are aftermarket units made by Echlin, etc).
Some Ford script square cased cutouts that mounted on top the generator case were used/sold by Ford.
The very early Model T cutouts were also square cased and mounted on the passenger engine side of the dash and had flat mounting feet. These were soon discontinued and the round generator case mounted units were used for most of production.
Ron the Coilman


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael Deichmann, Blistrup, Denmark on Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - 10:40 am:

John, the cutouts on the UK build small Fords from the 30'ies and onwards all (?) had square cutouts.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - 12:07 pm:

John Saunders;

My 1919 center door had what I believe was an original SQUARE CUT OUT on it when I got it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Matthew David Maiers on Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - 12:56 pm:

now what the heck is that logo on top of it?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Tomaso - Milton,WA on Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - 01:08 pm:

Here's an original early Ford cut-out.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Page on Thursday, August 30, 2012 - 12:39 am:

This was on my first Model T when I bought it in 1965. I only changed it recently when I replaced it with one of John's Voltage Regulators. It is still in good working order and had never given any trouble. I have buffed off the paint to expose the Ford Script.
Not sure if it may be English or Canadian as the car is in Australia. If anyone can shed any light on who the maker may have been that would be appreciated. Regards, John


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Housego (United Kingdom) on Thursday, August 30, 2012 - 09:45 am:

Thanks Ron and all for the interesting info on this cut out. Matthew, I don't think it is a logo maybe just a pattern, here is a better view of it. John


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John F. Regan on Thursday, August 30, 2012 - 10:30 pm:

I once did a peek into the early cutout drawings at the archives. Lots of different looking gizmos were used by Ford early on. Lot of different makers but it did appear that the first cutouts were some already being made and in the market when Ford began providing his new electrical system. One or two of the cutouts in fact had more than just the usual mounting plus input (generator) and output (battery) connections but the extra connections were not used. In those days, many cutouts had ability to connect to the field winding directly via the light switch and things like that. The purpose being to increase the charge rate by decreasing field resistance whenever the lights were turned on. Ford didn't use any of those extra connections as far as I could tell. I didn't spend a lot of time researching the cutout since I just looked at the drawings for a short afternoon before departing for home. There were round ones, square ones, and rectangular ones too as I recall. The early cutout mounted to the firewall on the passenger side and I thought it was fastened to at least one of the bolts that held the firewall to the firewall-to-frame bracket. Not sure so don't quote me on that.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Vic Patterson. Grande Cache, Canada. on Thursday, August 30, 2012 - 11:13 pm:

Correct John!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bede Cordes, New Zealand on Friday, August 31, 2012 - 06:38 am:

John H,

The logo reminds me a bit of the Metropolitan-Vickers (English electrical equipment manufacturer, later amalgamated with British Thomson Houston (BTH) to become AEI, then later, GEC) logo, but it's not. It's not as fancy, and has another inverted V in it..... and I don't think Metrovick ever did automotive equipment.

BTH did though, they made magnetos, including many for the planes in WW2.

Just a random thought.

Regards,
Bede


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