Ford Tool Guys: 5-Z-834??

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerry VanOoteghem on Thursday, September 13, 2012 - 11:54 am:

A friend of mine at work brought in some old Ford wrenches today. One is marked "5-Z-834". It's basically an L-handled fixed socket type wrench, maybe 9/16". Is there a list of "Z" tools and their specific uses and what would this wrench have been for?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By jack daron-Brownsburg,In. on Thursday, September 13, 2012 - 12:36 pm:

picture?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerry Ostbye on Thursday, September 13, 2012 - 12:42 pm:

Titening or lossening bolts. I just had to say that. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerry VanOoteghem on Thursday, September 13, 2012 - 12:51 pm:

Jerry,

I like the way you think!

Jack,

Sorry no pic. Hoping the Z number would do it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Kopsky, Lytle TX on Thursday, September 13, 2012 - 02:27 pm:

It's not in the list of Model T tools. It could be a Model A tool. Perhaps for a distrubator... distbatriliator... discombobulater, oh heck; one of those new-fangled things for the sparken-puten.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George_Cherry Hill NJ on Thursday, September 13, 2012 - 04:58 pm:

Like Ken, I came up blank after looking...

Other tools around it that I have numbers for were specialty wrenches and sockets of odd-ball lengths for special places...but that doesn't mean squat in searching Ford tools :-)

Unca Jack has it...how about a picture!

Sometimes earlier 3Z tools were renumbered by Ford later in the T era. To see it might help.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By William L Vanderburg on Thursday, September 13, 2012 - 05:13 pm:

does it look like this????

wrench


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Thomas Mullin on Thursday, September 13, 2012 - 05:47 pm:

Jerry,

The 1919 Service Bulletin, Issue 7, Page 50, July 1,1919, had this list of Zee tools:

zee tools

Murray Fahnstock says the list of Zee tools is contained in materials provided to service trainees at the (Highland Park?) plant. Does anyone have copies of these materials?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Vaughn on Thursday, September 13, 2012 - 05:52 pm:

Jerry,

How long is the handle on the wrench? I found some info on 9/16" Socket L handle wrenches. It looks like they were just for 9/16" cap screws, no specific use documented. None match your number however.

3Z-775 SOCKET WRENCH (9/16” for cap screws. 8-7/16”
long)
Apr 18 3Z-775 .40
Nov 18 3Z-775 .50
Apr 19 3Z-775 .40
Jul 19 3Z-775 .50
Nov 19 3Z-775 .60
Jul 21 Use 5Z-155
Jun 22 3Z-775 .30
Apr 23 3Z-775 .30
3Z-782 See 5Z-156
3Z-783 See 5Z-159
3Z-786 See 5Z-285

5Z-155 “L” SOCKET WRENCH (9/16” 12” long)
2322
Jan 11 2322 .50
May 15 2322 .30
Feb 17 3Z-645 .30
3Z-645
Oct 17 3Z-645 .30
Nov 18 3Z-645 .60
Apr 19 3Z-645 .50
Nov 19 3Z-645 .60 5Z-155 later
Dec 20 5Z-155 .60
Jul 21 5Z-155 .50
Nov 21 5Z-155 .40
Apr 22 5Z-155 .45
Oct 26 5Z-155 .35


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Musegh Kalon on Thursday, September 13, 2012 - 06:05 pm:

That looks like my wrist pin bolt wrench.
M


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Brian on Thursday, September 13, 2012 - 11:33 pm:

I found the same 3Z 1XX and 6XX series. 5z series but no 8XX numbers.

And of course the 20XX and the 12XX series for the T. I've just gotten a start of studying these series but I suspect A or B vintage to the 8XX series. The system had dumped the Z designation by the early 30's.

Which leaves my no name (but very similar to Blue Points/Snap-On) 5120 5/8" 'L' socket wrench a mystery too.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By William L Vanderburg on Thursday, September 13, 2012 - 11:46 pm:

The pic I posted is a flywheel cap screw wrench, which is 13.6 inches long. The wrist pin bolt wrench looks exactly like this except it's 3.1 inches shorter. The 5Z-210 replaced an earlier 3Z-601 in late 1920. The wrist pin wrench is 5Z-209 and replaced 3Z-647

I too, have not found any references to 8xx series tools in the Model T era.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Luke Dahlinger on Friday, September 14, 2012 - 12:12 am:

Here's a scan I saved from a post by Jeff Humble showing some of the Model T Z tools.


The Model A 5Z tools I have are in the 1000 digit range.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By James A. Mahaffey on Friday, September 14, 2012 - 09:19 am:

Fordson tractor wrench?

Jim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Layden Butler on Friday, September 14, 2012 - 01:22 pm:

Are Lincoln wrenches also Z series?


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