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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Olivier CHABANNE on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 06:58 pm:

Hello to all.

I post this message today to express my great sadness, My Ford model T 1924 was completely destroyed in an accident late Sunday afternoon.

We retrions with my wife Pascale and my son Hugo 9 years of a rally organized by the old car club in my town, when a long straight a car violently crashed into the back of my Ford.

We were mounted and I drove to the first speed remaining well to the right of the road. The sun was in front of us and dazzled. All vehicles had slowed down at this point.

Despite the sun was dazzling, the young driver did not slow down and hit the back of the Ford. It was traveling at 110 km / h and the Ford was traveling at 15 km / h. The shock was terrible, Ford executed a U-turn at the front, we were ejected all three on the edge of the road, Ford and fell and still make a U-turn on its side.

My wife had Easter ankle trapped under the Ford and Hugo had both legs tucked under the body of the Ford. For me, I was ejected 8M further into the ditch.

We were very lucky because my wife only a fracture to the ankle. Hugo has only 2 big bruises on his legs, and I'm a simple back pain (What I had done in lifting the car to get my son).

Pascale is still in the hospital but it certainly leaves Friday or Saturday. Rehabilitation to regain the use of his ankle will be very long but it is relative because we could certainly die all three in a violent accident.

Here are some pictures.

Be very careful with all your Ford model T, and beware of modern cars that run too fast.






(Bonjour à tous.
Je poste ce message aujourd’hui pour dire ma grande tristesse, Ma Ford model T 1924 a été complétement détruite dans un accident dimanche en fin d’après-midi.
Nous retrions avec ma femme Pascale et mon fils Hugo de 9 ans d’un rassemblement organisé par le club de voitures ancienne de ma ville, lorsque dans une longue ligne droite une voiture à très violemment percuté l’arrière de ma Ford.
Nous étions en monté et je roulais sur la première vitesse en restant bien à droite de la route. Le soleil couchant était en face de nous et nous éblouissait. Tous les véhicules avaient ralenti à cet endroit.
Malgré le soleil qui devait l’éblouir, Le jeune chauffeur n’a pas ralenti et a percuté l’arrière de la Ford. Il roulait à 110 Km/h et la Ford roulait à 15 Km/h. Le choc a était terrible, la Ford a exécuté un demi-tour par l’avant, nous avons été éjecté tous les 3 sur le bord de la route, la Ford et retombé et a encore réaliser un demi-tour sur le côté.
Ma femme pascale avait la cheville coincée sous la Ford et Hugo avait les deux jambes coincé sous la carrosserie de la Ford. Pour moi, j’ai été éjecté 8M plus loin dans le fossé.
Nous avons eu beaucoup de chance car seul ma femme à une fracture ouverte à la cheville. Hugo a seulement 2 gros hématomes sur les jambes, et moi un simple mal au dos (Que j’ai dû me faire en soulevant la voiture pour sortir mon fils).
Pascale est encore à l’hôpital mais elle sort certainement vendredi ou samedi. La rééducation pour retrouver l’usage de sa cheville sera certainement très longue mais il faut relativiser car nous aurions pu certainement mourir tous les trois dans un si violent accident.
Soyez tous très prudent avec vos Ford model T, et méfiez-vous des voitures modernes qui roulent beaucoup trop vite.)




Olivier (France)


















Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Wolf on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 07:07 pm:

I have never seen a rear axle break in that way.WOW


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Floyd Voie - Chehalis, Washington on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 07:09 pm:

Hello Oliver,

I am so glad to hear your family is going to be OK!
I'm sad for you and all the work you put in to the Model T. I have followed your posts over the years and enjoyed watching your progress with the T.
Best wishes to you and your family for a speedy recovery!

Floyd Voie


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerome Hoffman, Hays KS on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 07:21 pm:

Oliver, I too am happy to learn your whole family is under the circumstances doing well.
Don't give up, I think with good insurance your car is repairable. Make sure the insurance co gives you what you need to fix it. Jerry


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John P. Steele, Montana on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 07:30 pm:

Hi Oliver,
I'm am glad to hear that your family will be ok. Carolyn and I wish you all a quick recovery. Sorry about your car, it was so neat and hopefully will be again.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By lorenzo leon on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 07:30 pm:

Sorry to see such destruction to your car
But good to hear you and yours made it out with only minor damage.
wishing you well ..Lorenzo


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Matthew David Maiers on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 07:30 pm:

WOW!!! is amazing you all are ok!!!

People need to laern to pay attention of whats in front of them.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Gruber- Spanaway, Wash. on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 07:47 pm:

WOW!
Glad to hear everybody survived with only minor damage.
The car can be fixed or replaced.
People can not.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Shawn Hayward on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 07:53 pm:

Glad everyone will be OK
what a shame about the car
it was a beauty, anything can be repaired :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Susanne on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 07:53 pm:

Oh NO!!! I am glad that you and your family weren't seriously hurt, and my prayers and best wishes for Pascale's quick recovery... As to the car, I am heartbroken, as it was one of the prettiest T's I knew of on your side of the pond... Don't lose faith, it, too, can be "healed" as well... Our prayers and best wishes to you and yours, Olivier... Susanne


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Sumerall - Athens, AL on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 07:56 pm:

Olivier, I am so thankful that you and your family have come through that terrible accident blessed by not having severe injuries. One's own life and health are much more important than a car. Just yesterday I was rereading the article that was published several years ago in the May-June 2009 Model T Times. You had to do a great amount of work to restore your car due to rust and wear. In looking at your pictures of the wreck I believe that maybe you can once again get your beautiful Model T back on the road. Just as you had to replace the engine in your car due to rust, you will certainly have to replace other components on your car again, but with time and hard work I believe it could be done. Thank you for letting us know of your accident along with the pictures. I wish you and your family a complete recovery.
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Olivier, je suis tellement reconnaissante que vous et votre famille sont passés par ce terrible accident heureux de ne pas avoir de graves blessures. Sa propre vie et de la santé sont beaucoup plus importants qu'une voiture. Hier, j'ai relu l'article qui a été publié il ya plusieurs années dans l'édition 2009 de mai-juin Times, Modèle T. Il fallait faire une grande quantité de travail pour restaurer votre voiture à cause de la rouille et l'usure. En regardant vos photos de l'accident, je crois que peut-être vous pouvez de nouveau obtenir vos Modèle T belles retour sur la route. Tout comme vous avez dû remplacer le moteur de votre voiture à cause de la rouille, vous aurez certainement à remplacer d'autres composants de votre voiture à nouveau, mais avec le temps et le travail acharné, je crois que cela pourrait être fait. Merci de nous faire part de votre accident avec les photos. Je vous souhaite ainsi qu'à votre famille un rétablissement complet.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Carnegie on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 08:02 pm:

I'm sorry to hear of your accident.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George Clipner-Los Angeles on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 08:03 pm:

OH MY !!! Glad you and your family are not in real bad shape or worse. As far as the car is concerned, it can still be rebuilt. It will just take time. God Bless you all.
George n L.A.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Vaughn on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 08:04 pm:

Hello Oliver, je suis très désolé d'entendre parler de votre accident. Je suis heureux que vous et votre famille sera bien. Il est triste de voir votre beau modèle T dans de telles conditions.


Hello Oliver, I am very sorry to hear about your accident. I am glad that you and your family will be well. It is sad to see your beautiful model T in such condition.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Craig Anderson, central Wisconsin on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 08:05 pm:

How awful yet still so lucky!
You can buy another car but not another family.
It IS a miracle none of you were hurt worse.......or worse........ :-(
Best of luck to you!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Matthew David Maiers on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 08:07 pm:

good news is that alot of the parts look like they coud be reused.

do they still have blacksmiths in France?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 08:19 pm:

With all due respect to the on-line translator that Olivier uses, I have taken the liberty of doing my own translation of his French report on the accident. It has been over 40 years since I lived in France and spoke French every day, but I do still have dictionaries to help with the forgotten words.

"Good day to all,
I am posting this message today to tell you about my great sadness. My 1924 Model T Ford was completely destroyed in an accident last Sunday afternoon.
We were returning with my wife Pascale and my 9-year-old son Hugo from a gathering organized by the antique car club in my city, when in a long line to the right a car very violently struck the rear of my Ford.
We were on a slope and I was driving in low gear, keeping well to the right of the road. The setting sun was facing us and dazzled us. All vehicles were going slowly at this point..
Despite the sun which should have dazzled him, the young driver did not slow down and struck the back of the Ford. He was driving 110 km/h and the Ford was driving 15 km/h. The shock was terrible, the Ford executed an about-face from the front, all three of us were ejected at the side of the road, the Ford fell again and again did an about-face at the side. My wife Pascale had an ankle wedged beneath the Ford and Hugo had both legs wedged under the body of the Ford. I was ejected 8 meters farther away in the ditch.
We were very lucky because only my wife had an open fracture of the ankle. Hugo has only two large bruises on his legs, and I have a simple back pain (which I did to myself in lifting the car to free my son).
Pascale is still in the hospital, but she will certainly be released Friday or Saturday. Rehabilitation for regaining the use of her ankle will certainly be very long, but we have to put things into perspective because we could certainly have all three died in such a violent accident.
Be very careful with your Model T Ford, and don’t trust modern cars that drive much too fast."

Olivier, je partage ton tristesse, mais je suis en même temps très heureux que vous trois avez eu autant de chance. Je vous envoie tous les trois mes meilleurs voeux pour une guérison rapide.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Stokes on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 08:20 pm:

Vous et la famille sont tellement chanceux d'avoir survécu. Il ressemble à un accident terrible. Je sais que perdre le Modèle T sera comme perdre un membre de la famille.
John Stokes
Nouvelle-Zélande


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Matthew David Maiers on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 08:24 pm:

I always say "model T drivers have to be the best drivers in the world" unfortunatly it would be very difficult to prevent such an accident.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Townsend ; ^ ) Gresham, Orygun on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 08:34 pm:

Bob said it all.

Speedy recovery.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Randy Schultz-Rathbun on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 08:41 pm:

Olivier, so sorry to hear of your accident, and best wishes for a speedy recovery.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace, North FL on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 08:46 pm:

Oliver and family...oh so glad the terrible accident caused no great harm to you all. That is so unfortunate and a real loss.

The T you rescued and restored, sharing photos and posting stories to us over the last years was so interesting to see. Now all the damage.

At least your family is alright and can be back enjoying life. That T really did save you if you can think of it that way.

Let's have your family get well very soon!

Dan


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Dufault on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 08:54 pm:

Oliver,
I am so very, very sad to read about your tragedy, and very happy that you are alive to tell about it, and that your family will be OK after rehabilitation.

David


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Charlie B actually in Toms River N.J. on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 08:59 pm:

If you believe in any thing you owe Him/Her a vote of thanks. Glad you're all relatively OK. That being said: the car that hit you was going what, about 55/60 MPH and you were doing about 7 to 10 MPH? Club or no club what the heck were you all doing on that road? Looking at the pictures I'd estimate that road would have a 45 to 55 MPH speed limit in my area. Aside from the fact that you were rear ended by a negligent driver you were essentially stopped. Sorry Olivier but someone screwed up planning that route. A T has no business on a highway where it not only can't do the limit but slows to a crawl. The other driver was wrong but it does you no good. My 2 cents: stick with local roads their dangerous enough for T drivers.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Danuser on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 09:04 pm:

Hope you and the family heal well, looks to me that your T body came thru well, just need a new chassis to put it on, looks like the modern car went under you to the frame and missed the main body


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen - Nebraska on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 09:09 pm:

Oliver,

Sorry for the terrible accident your family suffered. I'm thankful you are all recovering.

Again, sorry,

Rob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Kelsey on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 09:41 pm:

Oliver:

I'm so sorry to hear about the accident. I'll pray for a fast recovery.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 09:53 pm:

Oliver,
I'm so sad about your accident and injuries to your family, but I am very happy that all survived and will heal up.

Hopefully, you will not get discouraged, but will either be able to salvage your Ford or to buy another one.

Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 09:54 pm:

That is terrible, Olivier. Speedy recoveries to all of you.

Thanks, Dick, for the translation. Makes a lot more sense.

rdr


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 10:28 pm:

You're welcome, Ralph. For routine posts, Olivier's on-line translation works okay, but this one was not too clear and I thought it should be. Someone was watching over them, thank goodness.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Halpin on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 10:32 pm:

Everybody has already said just about all there is to say. Glad your family will be all right.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aaron Griffey, Hayward Ca. on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 10:34 pm:

Sorry to hear about your accident and the destruction of the car.
I have many pictures of your car, I liked it very much.
I hope the injuries are no worse than you have reported.
Now you must work faster on the '15 touring.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 10:59 pm:

Olivier,

I am very sorry to learn of your accident. I am very thankful that you and your family will be alright. We will be praying for you and your family’s speedy recovery.

Respectfully submitted,

Hap l9l5 cut off


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ted Dumas on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 11:10 pm:

Olivier,

Thank goodness you are all safe. Recovering from the broken ankle won't be much fun.

As John said, your car looks salvageable. I am sure that's not your biggest concern at the moment.

We will be thinking of you all and look for a good outcome on the mended ankle.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Paul Mikeska, Denver CO on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 11:11 pm:

Olivier,

Material things can be replaced but your family cannot. Your family was blessed. We will keep you in our prayers.

Paul


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By William L Vanderburg on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 11:28 pm:

Olivier,

Cars are replaceable. Your life is the only one you have. I am saddened by your loss of your car, but am grateful that you and your family survived.

Grace and Peace.

Will


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Danial - Veneta OR US Earth Solar System on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 11:30 pm:

Nous vous souhaitons tout le mieux ! La famille contente est bien !


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Cameron Whitaker on Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 11:39 pm:

I'm extremely sorry for your accident and your loss.

As William above said, cars are replaceable, but lives are not. I am really happy to hear that you all came out okay, and I wish you the best in your recovery.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stan Howe Helena, Montana on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 12:19 am:

Best wishes from all your American friends and other friends around the world who have come to know you and your wonderful car through the forum. You were blessed and lucky to have survived with no worse injuries than you have.

Surely you will rebuild the car, if there is anything we can do to supply parts, let us know. Parts are in abundance here and many of us would be glad to help you with rebuilding as much as we can.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Hjortnaes, Men Falls, WI on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 12:59 am:

Sorry to hear about your accident. We are all thankful that no one was hurt seriously.

I see you still have 3 good wheels and 4 good tires. It does not appear that your engine was damaged, so you have a good start on rebuilding.

Wish you all the best of luck and a speedy recovery.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Knoll on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 01:06 am:

Thank god they are all right .... My god , it really destroyed the car ....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael Deichmann, Blistrup, Denmark on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 01:16 am:

Best wishes for recovery of both your son and also your car.
I had a danish T-friend that experinced something similar a your ago. Young girl texting had not seen my buddy had pulled over (correctly) to take a call that came on his mobile. The car came with "just" 70-80 km/h (45 - 50 mph) and did a U-turn as well and he was also thrown out but only got bruces.
I think this is exactly what we all fear...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 02:59 am:

Olivier,
I am so glad to hear your family will be okay. It saddens me very much to hear of this accident and see pictures of the wreckage. But I would not want to not hear about it. Many of us on this forum consider you and so many others to be our friends, even if we never get to meet face to face. We do care about our friends. We want to know of these things. Thank you for letting us know.
I wish for a speedy recovery for your family and you. Put the car aside for a short while. It can be repaired, almost as well as it was. But consider that later.
Take care of you, and your family.
Wayne Sheldon


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By kep NZ on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 03:22 am:

Very confident you can repair that.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Nevin Gough on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 04:03 am:

So sad to hear of the loss of the car, but relieved you're all be okay.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Warwick Landy on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 04:33 am:

Olivier,
So very sad to see the pictures of your destroyed car. I sincerely hope that this accident will not effect your passion and desire for owning and driving a Model T. I hope your wife and family are ares still keen to continue the hobbie with you. All the best with your recovery.
Warwick.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 11:19 am:

Olivier,Je suis tellement heureux que vous n'êtes pas blessé !Votre belle voiture peut être remplacée.Votre famille est inestimable.Prendre soin de mon ami.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rick, Sandy Creek, NY on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 12:20 pm:

Thank God you and your family are going to be ok. Hopefully they will be able to overcome the fear of getting into another T after that. It'll never be the same for any of you again I'm sure. Sorry to see this happen to you all.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerry VanOoteghem on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 12:29 pm:

Olivier,

How terrible. I'm so sorry for the injuries you and your family received and for the loss of your beautiful car.

The good news, of course, is that you will all recover from your injuries.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Semprez-Templeton, CA on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 12:50 pm:

Olivier, Thank God your family is safe! My prayers go out for their speedy recovery.

As I often tell my family never underestimate the stupidity of the other driver! -John


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andrew Deckman, Ogden Utah on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 01:56 pm:

Wow, glad you and your family are still with this Model T family. Hope you all recover quickly.

It looks to me like if you where wearing seat belts this may have turned out for the worse!!

Just an observation. What do the rest of your think.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mack Cole ---- Earth on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 02:25 pm:

I agree Andrew but I hope it dont become a hash session regarding that topic,but this is a obvious case that they would do more harm than good.
Olivier it is sad news like this that remind me how small my problems are compared to those of others.
I am glad your injurys can be over come.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By george house on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 03:35 pm:

Olivier,
You and your family are truly blessed! not to have any more injuries than stated from a rear end collision. Your touring body is most unique from our American perspective and I pray it will be restorable - after your family heals.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Olivier CHABANNE on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 03:43 pm:

Hello everyone .......

I would never have the time to answer you all individually, so thank you very much for your messages of support that we go straight to the heart.

Passion for model T is always present in our family, and I will not give up.
At first, I'll try to work more on what draws Touring 1912 to run at the earliest.

Keep careful with your model T and THANKS again.

Pascale, Hugo & Olivier

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George_Cherry Hill NJ on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 04:39 pm:

So sorry to hear of your misfortune and thank goodness everyone is all right...a T can be fixed too...

To my American colleagues here, Olivier had done the car up over the last few years using machine translation to and from French and the help of the forum. His English above is a machine translation so that is why it jumps a bit...

If I'm reading it right, the French that is...Olivier is saying it was horrible low sun glare facing them, he was in low, and apparently the 'young driver' never saw him until it was well too late.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael Velling, Germany on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 04:40 pm:

Hello Olivier and your family,

have received the message from your accident on vacation in sweden via Toon Boer. We are schocked! Thanks god that you all are not more hurt - we hope everything will become best. We think and pray for you.

Petra and Michael


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 04:53 pm:

George, I did a human translation about 16 messages down the thread from Olivier's original post. Yes, sun glare, going up hill, hit from behind by a young driver going too fast.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George_Cherry Hill NJ on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 05:01 pm:

Sorry Dick, I didn't read through the responses first. I'd trust your translation better than mine anyway...:-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 05:08 pm:

I think we both read it about the same way, George. I remain very thankful that Olivier, Pascale and Hugo came through the experience as well as they did.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Noel D. Chicoine, MD, Pierre, SD on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 10:56 pm:

Olivier, I also pray that Pascale comes through the injury well and you all recover completely. Our prayers are with you.
Noel and Teresa


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Garrison on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 11:57 pm:

Olivier,
Accidents happen so fast and can be so devastating. I'm glad to hear you're alright and We'll all be waiting to hear updates over the next several weeks regarding the health of your family. And I pray you'll be able to salvage your Model T.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Skinner on Thursday, September 20, 2012 - 11:27 am:

YOU WERE ALL VERY LUCKY TO survive so well from this awful incident. God must be smiling down on you all for bringing you through such a terrible experience.
The car will be very easily repairable. You will have to do it quite quickly so that will be able to greet you at Saumur in 2013.
David and Moira Skinner, just a short journey and a little swim North, up in Hampshire, Angleterre.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Pierre Izaret on Thursday, September 20, 2012 - 03:31 pm:

Olivier and family are such nice people.
They work so hard for their Model T web site and planning the annual model T concentration in France. The French commercial model T body that he restored carefully ten years ago is quite different from American ones : lower on wheels and heavier with stronger wooden bows ... Perhaps these differences saved their lives ... Hi David . We expect that Olivier will come with us to England for the next T Register U K rallye.
Best regards to you David and T people.
Pierre Izaret


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kees Steeman on Friday, September 21, 2012 - 02:49 pm:

Olivier, that was a terrible accident. I wish you and the family a fast and good recovery. Hope to see you in Saumur next year. If you don"t have a T then, you may use one of mine.All the best and good luck. Cees Steeman in Holland.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rick Goelz-Knoxville,TN on Friday, September 21, 2012 - 03:16 pm:

That makes the argument for no seatbelts in a open car.
Rick


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By kep NZ on Friday, September 21, 2012 - 04:09 pm:

The first step to driving again is to turn it back the correct way up. Then repair the broken wheel. It rest will look easy after that.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Friday, September 21, 2012 - 04:41 pm:

Rick, I estimate about half the people thrown from cars are fatals. The last one of note was Ken Meeks. The speed of the car when it ejects the passengers - including the driver who is a passenger at that point - is important.

There is an advantage in being strapped behind the wheel where you may be able to affect the outcome.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Friday, September 21, 2012 - 05:12 pm:

Ralph, in the case of Ken Meek, he'd have been better off if he had been thrown free right away. Marge was thrown out of the car on the first rollover and survived. Ken was wedged behind the steering wheel and wasn't thrown out until the second rollover (as would more or less have been the case if he had been wearing a seat belt).


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erich Bruckner, Vancouver, WA on Friday, September 21, 2012 - 05:19 pm:

Olivier, Thank GOD you are all alive and mostly in one piece. The ford can be fixed of course. So glad you still have each other. Such a thing could happen to any of us and many have had very close calls. May you all heal quickly. Please keep us posted.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Olivier CHABANNE on Saturday, September 22, 2012 - 12:35 pm:

Hello friends

Pascale is discharged from hospital with a beautiful resin ankle that will endure for three months. Now, what will he be patient ......... and I also may be .......
Hugo goes well, although it will also be time for him to forget the trauma of the accident.

Kees, your proposal for a model T we are extremely pleased, but I would not accept fear that the same thing happens to him. But thank you for giving us your trust.

Now I'll try to work a bit faster to finish the restoration of 1912 as soon as possible.
I would inform you on what will become the 1924, when insurance companies have given an answer.

See you on the forum

Olivier


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David M.Saleh on Saturday, September 22, 2012 - 08:32 pm:

Glad all are recovering from what could have a much worse event.How anybody can say sorry or worry be sick or even mention anything about the car in any form has their priorities out of wack...1 life and ones health are more important than any old machine ...I didn't give a thought about the demise of car.BAffles me anyone would?
Speedy recovery!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Patterson, OZ on Saturday, September 22, 2012 - 11:12 pm:

Olivier,
Its good to hear of your positive outcome after such a negative event.
Personally I am saddened by the demise of your lovely T. I have always had a soft spot for it because it and my T have something in common.....bodies built in their country of residence. Yours in France, mine in Australia.
However, I do have several images of your car saved on my computer for my future perusal.
Driving my T on single lane highways has always scared the %#!*&^ out of me. Even more so now.
Good luck with your 1912 restoration.
Rob


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