Still can not find nut, help

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2012: Still can not find nut, help
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ronnie Wehba on Wednesday, September 26, 2012 - 06:24 pm:

would some one send me a text at 325-721-2899 with your phone number so i can call you on my dime,just need to chat with someone about this transmission mess thanks ron


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 12:37 am:

Have you heard from anyone yet? Getting late now.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim on Friday, September 28, 2012 - 08:54 am:

Heres' one ...... :-)




Jim



Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bud Holzschuh - Panama City, FL on Friday, September 28, 2012 - 12:44 pm:

Ronnie

Have you considered that your looking for something that just isn't there ??

Its impossible to prove a negative but it sounds like you've done a thorough job of trying to find it.

I've never had the problem but something flexible (similar to a band)slipped around the drums and dragged from front to rear and you should be able to find something as big as a nut.

Alternatively dragged from rear to front and then a rag hooked to the flywheel and used to "sweep" the flywheel sump, might bring it up.

Keep us posted
Good luck
schuh


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Wolf on Friday, September 28, 2012 - 02:59 pm:

I haven't had time to read the whole thread, but have you looked down in the pan around the drain plug. If this has been discussed already, disregard.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Hatch on Friday, September 28, 2012 - 05:22 pm:

Find someone with bore scope or buy one. That is what I use to hunt them when a customer brings me one that they have lost. You can find it and then watch it as you hook it. I just did one 2 weeks ago that the guy looked for 6 days. Took 20 mins with the scope. Dan


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Garrison on Friday, September 28, 2012 - 06:06 pm:

Dan, I talked to Ronnie a couple days ago and he said he's got access to a really nice ($) bore scope. That was going to be his next thing to try. I haven't heard back. When we talked I could hear a little frustration in his voice. I wish I lived close enough that I could help a little. Or at least get in his way and drive him nuts. He's a really nice guy and seems to have a lot of patience.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ronnie Wehba on Friday, September 28, 2012 - 07:24 pm:

hi mike, borescope in the morning not frustrated just concerned pulled engine pan very clean pistons look new,but a new concern will try to send a picture of Ithink the mag post between two magnets. not sure if something is missing or not.will start new thread.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Garrison on Friday, September 28, 2012 - 10:36 pm:

Hi Ronnie, concerned is a better description than frustrated. Sorry about that. I don't understand your remark regarding mag post between two magnets. The mag post actually protrudes down into a pad of what I believe to be solder between two coils at the top of the coil ring. The magnets are actually mounted on the flywheel and turns with it. I hope I'm not telling you something you already know and wasting your time. The magneto is a pretty neat process. It's not exactly magical how it works but it almost seems like it. When the magnets pass by the coils with the steel plates wrapped with wire they produce electricity. Same principal as a generator except the magnets have positive and negative posts and as they pass the coils the polarity of the electricity produced flips from positive to negative and creates Alternating Current. When your RPMs are up the mag produces up close to 35 volts AC. So keep in mind the coil ring is fastened permanently and the flywheel and the magnets past by it as they turn with the crankshaft. One of the interesting phenomena that occurs with a magneto is that the alternating current flips back and forth so fast that when a digital volt meter comes close to it the volt meter become very erratic. Therefore when testing for voltage output at your magneto post it's important to use an analog meter.

If you'll notice the wedge shaped item on the right side of the ring. That is actually the contact that the magneto post protrudes into. And if you look pretty hard you'll notice at the top of the wedge there appears to be a gray colored button. That's the solder pad I mentioned earlier. Please understand I'm writing this without knowledge of how familiar you are with all this so if you are knowledgeable of all this I apologize.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Friday, September 28, 2012 - 10:44 pm:

Let's reduce that tilt a little.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Garrison on Saturday, September 29, 2012 - 12:35 am:

Dagnabit Jeff, I laid it to the side so it would be easier to see. But I guess I like the position you've got it in better.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Brown on Saturday, September 29, 2012 - 01:49 am:

Mike, Is that a glob of solder under the mag contact post and also between the 3rd and 4th coil


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Saturday, September 29, 2012 - 03:28 pm:

Dennis,
Yes that is a solder contact below the mag post contact. That is where the other end of that about four hundred feet of copper ribbon is connected to ground. Solder does not attach easily to cast iron, but once done reasonably well makes a much better and more reliable connection than only bolting it down. The large solder button on the top just makes a nice, soft, place for the point of the mag-post contact to sink into for good reliable connection.
As to that other light spot. I don't know what it is. I would have to look at one of mine to see if it is there, but I don't think that it is.
There is actually a solder connection between each and every coil. They are wrapped individually, covered, then installed and solder connected together.
If I am looking at it correctly, I believe that is a non-starter coil ring.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


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